Apparently BBC America have aired a trailer saying that Season 7 will start on 8th September. I'm hoping that BBC 1 will start the week before still though, as it's Memorial Weekend (?) then I've been told.
Well...
— Doctor Who Online (@DrWhoOnline) August 20, 2012@bbcamerica have now officially confirmed they will air 7.1: Asylum of the Daleks on 8th September...UK is now either 1st / 8th.
video of it is here: http://youtu.be/uhNhOKXNlIY
ReplyDeletecheers Chris, I'll add it to the post
ReplyDeleteAmerica better not get it before us. Not to be so mean or a pain in the ass or anything but you guys get EVERYTHING first. Who is ours. I really hope it is the 1st for us.
ReplyDeleteRadio times come out tomorrow morning which will hopefully reveal the air date for Doctor Who if it is out September 1
ReplyDeletei don't understand this post. it was clearly stated if any country gets to see it early, it would be the UK. The trailer said September 8. So the UK either gets to see it on the 1st or the 8th. So you have nothing to worry about.
ReplyDeleteI'm still holding on to that hope too, it would make the best sense to start it on the 1st imo, then the finale will be on the same night as Merlin's opener. That teamed with Strictly would make a strong Sat viewing for the night.
ReplyDeleteI see it didn't take long for the "we'd better get it first" posts to start popping up. Ugh. If Who doesn't air on the same day in both regions (like always) I'd be surprised.
ReplyDeleteI can see both sides of it. The show is mainly made using money from the Licence Fee, although I believe BBCA have contributed some for USA filming the last two years. Because of this it has to be shown on BBC1 first otherwise it would be breaking it's own charter, although I agree that the USA will broadcast later the same day. If it didn't then I don't think their viewing figures would make it worthwhile, which would then lead to BBC iPlayer making the channel obsolete bit.ly/Se1R08
ReplyDeleteI think Torchwood (which was funded mainly by Starz with only a little coming from the LF) being shown a few days later on the BBC has made some fans a lil edgy that this could happen with Who too. Especially as the BBC are playing things very close to their chest which leads fans to think that something is up, when in reality all they are doing is making sure that ITV/X-Factor don't get too much warning of the air date early on.
"I can see both sides of it."
ReplyDeleteThat's the thing. The way I see it, there's only one side - the parent company's side. There's no US side and UK side to this and all of the "we should get it first" stuff is just misplaced entitlement.
The people who make Who are going to do what's most profitable for them and, regardless of who funds the show or where its filmed or who is cast, national loyalties probably never come to mind when there is a bottom line to take care of. Maybe I'm overly cynical but that's how I look at it.
But that's what I am trying to explain to you, the BBC cannot do what is most profitable or ignore 'national loyalties' because then it would be breaking its charter (
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/bu8a293 ). It is run very differently to just about any other TV channel worldwide, and there are *very* strict laws on who it has to be faithful to, namely the people who pay the TV Licence Fee in the UK. Therefore I'm not talking about misplaced entitlement, but the law in the UK and how the BBC have to follow it. If they don't follow it then the government can basically shut the whole company down in an instant.
It is also not allowed to make a profit, any extra money Who/Top Gear/Merlin/Eastenders/etc make has to go into the collective pot and then be spread out over all of it's TV channels, radio stations and internet services. Shows like the ones I've mentioned are the ones that pay for local radio to stay on air, and smaller niche shows that only get a couple of thousand viewers (if they are lucky) on the smaller channels who obviously spend a lot more than they 'make'.
If we were talking about any other channel in the UK and I would agree with whole heartedly, but the BBC is a different kettle of fish altogether.
BBC America has announced that the premiere is going to be on September 1. I think they originally were going to delay it a week because of the labor day holiday, but I guess they changed their minds.
ReplyDeleteLink from the BBC America webpage.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/doctor-who/extras/season-7-premiere-date/
Thanks Kimberly.
ReplyDeleteI get BBC's charter and its restrictions but what I'm trying to say is that there are always ways around that stuff - like BBC America. BBC America, owned in partnership with The Beeb, is subjected to none of the things The BBC is. No license fee for Brits and BBC America - no restrictions.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't incorrect about the misplaced entitlement when it comes to Who because BBCA doesn't have the same obligations to the UK as the mothership. It's most profitable for all concerned for Who to air same-day on BBC & BBCA so that's what's going to happen as often as possible.
So, when I rail against the "we should get it first" people it's because once Who was sold to BBCA, that kind of control went out the window and that kind of argument is now futile because BBC America's obligations are to its viewers and its advertisers like every other ad-based American network.
I'm sure there's some stipulation in BBCA's contract that it can't show first-run Who episodes first but you'd better believe that if they could they would, regardless of any complaints across the pond.
Oh I have no doubt that they would if they could, it would boost their figures hugely, much like Starz did with Torchwood which made the BBC figures very poor as fans had already seen it illegally, lol.
ReplyDeleteI think that the 'we should get it first' people should just stop worrying is the point I was trying to make, unlike Torchwood it's funded through the Licence Fee. As you say, there is no doubt that both channels will show it on the same day, it's just a shame that BBCA don't show it mid-afternoon, either at the same time or just a short delay, rather than later at night. Also, I understand that it is cut/speed up on first transmission so that adverts can be placed into an hour showing. If they didn't do those two things I'm sure their figures would raise by quite a significant number. With iPlayer becoming available to anyone worldwide, except the USA, they need to be able to compete with it imo.
We're definitely in agreement on this. There's no use in any Beeb viewers wringing their hands over something like this because there's nothing to worry about.
ReplyDeleteWorry is practically a hobby for some Who fans, lol. When the show's been taken off air twice in the past and we've witnessed all this chopping and changing about in when it's transmitted, and seen it's 2 spin offs end, all in the last year or so it's easy to see where it comes from. That was what I was trying to say by saying I see the other side of it, maybe I should have explained that clearer, sorry. I'm totally with you on that's an irrational stance to have thou.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. I had no idea viewers were so skittish. You'd figure that when a network has dedicated decades to a particular franchise, keeping it on the air in one form or another, and that its currently the network's most popular scripted show that fans would have a certain sense of security instead of nagging feelings of doubt.
ReplyDeleteNo sarcasm detected :D
ReplyDeleteThe BBC is very behind the current incarnation, but that hasn't always been the case, the show has been cancelled twice before. I don't think there is any possibility of that happening in the near future, but there's plenty of anti-BBC papers out there printing false 'inside information from an unnamed source'. I suspect that a lot of the fan hatred on Gallifrey Base, the main DW forum, is just trolling. But because they shout loudly and often the fans who just browse there, or read the bits lifted to make Daily Mail 'exclusives', pick up on it and take it as truth :(
It will now air on Sept 1st. On BBC America and on SPACE (in Canada)
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