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Supernatural - Episode 8.03 - Heartache

2 Jul 2012

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According to Zap2it episode 8.03 is tentatively titled "Heartache". Thanks to tvmonkey for the heads up
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47 comments:

  1. klutzy_girl2 July 2012 at 15:49

    I like it. Interesting!

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  2. N. Hallichester2 July 2012 at 15:55

    "Heartache"? Perhaps it has something to do with Sam's new recurring love interest. Killed off maybe? Like in "Heart".

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  3. nellymendezcolon2 July 2012 at 15:58

    ..dean again try to clean sam love interest mess ..IF..is DEAN..RETURN..to the picture

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  4. N. Hallichester2 July 2012 at 16:00

    Hmm, maybe it will be like "Heart", which won't bode well for Sam's new recurring love interest.
    The appearance of a 70-year old lady with a "very questionable past" sounds very interesting as well. I like them old ladies really shrewd and snarky. :)

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  5. Emily2 July 2012 at 16:13

    I think the title is too similar to Heart myself. You forgot to add the other spoiler in that article from zap2it. " Also in this episode, we'll meet a sweet 70-year-old lady with a very
    questionable past who helps out on a case." I like this twist and it's a bit different too.

    @DarkUFO Why is it saying by the article title that there are 3 comments but I can only see one comment?

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  6. Shaula Dfn2 July 2012 at 16:20

    ... And I still don't know if Amelia is indeed a recurring character or not, lol.

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  7. isleofskye2 July 2012 at 16:22

    Sam, Dean Impala, Road, Hunting Evil, Saving People; these are the words I want to read in a spoiler, not Heartache or recuring love interest!
    I can accept the 70 year old and the stripper at a pinch, but that's it.

    However, I want to be proved wrong, so I hope this episode turns out to be wonderful!

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  8. Pigeon6662 July 2012 at 16:23

    I would have preferred Heartbreaker myself, if only for the reference.

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  9. Emily2 July 2012 at 16:25

    Same here isleofskye. I wasn't expecting to read spoilers about love interests and having Heartache as an episode title.

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  10. isleofskye2 July 2012 at 16:34

    Emily.
    Possibly, knowing SPN everything will turn out to be different to what one expects, so I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

    It could be that the word "heartache" is to be taken literally, and some ghost actually causes physical pain to one's heart!!
    Just trying to look on the bright side! :)

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  11. Emily2 July 2012 at 16:41

    Yes that could be why it's called Heartache. That wouldn't be too bad if that's what they end up doing. I just find I'm having a harder time to be optimistic with the show lately.

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  12. Lissie_Bee2 July 2012 at 16:42

    Heartache on Supernatural? Must be Friday. Or I should say Wednesday, I suppose.

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  13. tvmonkey2 July 2012 at 16:47

    The episode actually involves a hunt involving gruesome murders which Sam will be investigating (not sure if Dean will be there or if this is a flashback episode to when Dean was in Purgatory and Sam was on his own). So thats hunting, possibly brothers together, maybe the car.
    They've referred to characters as being 'reccuring' before only for them to not be recurring at all.
    'Heartache' could actually be a reference to the hunt, maybe a ,onster who rips out hearts? It could also be referring to the loss Amelia is suffering as well as the loss Sam is suffering if he is without Dean and all alone?
    I'm actually looking forward to Sam getting to connect with another person outside of Dean again, its been a long time. Also Sam hunting and Sam POV? I'm all for it.

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  14. tvmonkey2 July 2012 at 16:49

    The Title may yet change, but I agree does sound too similar, then again if the qulity of the episode is as good as Heart I'll be pretty happy.

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  15. tvmonkey2 July 2012 at 16:50

    guess we'll have to wait and see, hopefully they tell us more about this storyline during comic con.

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  16. isleofskye2 July 2012 at 16:54

    Emily
    I understand.
    I feel exactly the way you do.
    Season Seven certainly didn't go as I would have liked but I want to give Carver the benefit of the doubt, at least until we see some of his work..

    All I ask is that he doesn't turn the show into a soap opera!

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  17. Emily2 July 2012 at 17:06

    Same here. I'm willing to give Carver at least a chance first then I will decide what I should do.

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  18. Ell1son2 July 2012 at 17:09

    its the introduction of Sam's love interest i think aswell

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  19. Pentadactyl2 July 2012 at 17:11

    Still waiting to hear more about the episode before I form an opinion. I will say this for now: I know that this is just a tentative title, but I am overjoyed that there is not a single pun or movie allusion or any of that crap in it. Vehemently hated the Season 7 titles. ALL of them. Even the temporary ones were oh so pun-y (Amazon.com, Get Dick). If I never see a pun-y title again on Supernatural, I'll be a happy gal.

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  20. isleofskye2 July 2012 at 17:28

    Pentadactyl
    I agree. I think those stupid titles cheapen the show.

    I'm all for moments of humour to lighten the drama of an episode, but there's no need to exaggerate as I feel they did a lot in season seven.

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  21. Emily2 July 2012 at 17:39

    I do know that it involves gruesome murders, involves the occult and we aren't sure if Dean would be out of purgatory or not here. I think Dean will be out though cause how can you have an episode with strippers and not have Dean there? I have no problems with that. It could be a case like you or isleofskye suggested. Either of those wouldn't be too bad. It's the love interest for Sam and now this episode being called Heartache that bothers me if it does indeed refer to Sam and Amelia. I just don't want another one of Sam's love interests to die again. It happens way too often. I also don't want another Lisa ordeal again only it be with Sam this time. I do think that Sam needs someone else outside of Dean and we need more Sam POV. I just personally can't see this ending good unless they are very careful with this arc. I'm crossing my fingers that it does turn out good!

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  22. tvmonkey2 July 2012 at 18:52

    It's WINCHESTER WEDNESDAY!

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  23. Jan van Es2 July 2012 at 19:57

    Wish the love interest would be Dean. *sighs* At least Jensen is directing this one.

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  24. KatHale2 July 2012 at 20:20

    Like it or not can we appreciate the fact that it's a one word title?!
    We hadn't seen one since Frontierland.

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  25. Lissie_Bee2 July 2012 at 20:23

    And herein lies reason #642 that Supernatural is better on Wednesdays ;)

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  26. jennyssparking2 July 2012 at 20:31

    Man, I don't know what's up with the rest of the commenters, but I'm freaking terrified. Supernatural tears my heart out on a regular basis when it ISN'T calling it's shots. I have no idea how to take this. I WANT TO KEEP MY SOUL. What else could they possibly do to completely destroy us? Is it going to be a montage of Sammy alone weeping in hotel rooms while he looks for a way to bust out Dean and Cas? PTSD of Dean from purgatory? Puppies being eaten by the dozen? *tears hair*

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  27. jensenfan19782 July 2012 at 22:46

    Why don't we all wait and see what Jeremy Carver does. He had some great writing when he was with the show before. He became Executive story editor by season 4 and a co producer by season 5. He's good. Let's wait and see what happens. Jensen was very happy to have him back. I ready to quit complaining and just see what happens.

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  28. Bruce_F2 July 2012 at 23:37

    I'm really hoping that's a tongue-in-cheek title. Don't need anyone being a sad-sack to start the season.

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  29. ZoeF3 July 2012 at 00:39

    Carina M tweeted that Buckner & Ross Leming are the ones writing it. Well, it'll be filler then, I guess. They aren't very controversial, but never wrote one of any substance either.
    Does this mean they've been bumped up the chain of writers? I assumed Dabb & Loflin would write the 3rd, as before, then Edlund the 2nd and Carver the 1st. Do we know who is coming back as writers? Please, let Robbie Thompson be back!
    I still do not want a recurring love interest. A couple episodes, yes, and hopefully she won't die and Sam will leave her happy, but I don't want to have to visit for side nookie every few weeks.

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  30. chris6843 July 2012 at 02:30

    I hope that's not true. Their writing for Sam was horrible last season. My enthusiasm for this episode just plummeted.

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  31. ZoeF3 July 2012 at 04:04

    I agree. I'd prefer Dabb & Loflin, at least they sometimes write good things. These two could be writing for any show and any characters. Just slip the dialogue in to NCIS or Bones and it's pretty much the same thing, minus the witches.

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  32. ZoeF3 July 2012 at 04:06

    Oh man, I agree so much! lol I loved the Led Zep lyrics titles, but S6-7 move and TV titles were so stupid and embarassing. It's like coming home to see one word titles again, I hope all season.

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  33. Dahne3 July 2012 at 06:28

    That does not sound promising since Sam's Heart episode also introduced a love interest for him. Let's hope this one ends better for him than that one did. Oh well, it will change at least 3 times before the episode airs anyway.

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  34. Dahne3 July 2012 at 06:37

    Well that's a relief. Maybe not a big relief but at least Jensen gets to work with someone else's writing. I wouldn't consider writing the third episode to be a promotion, probably more a commentary on the episode than their standing. If they needed to focus on a non-Winchester character or have one of the Winchesters out-of-character, then I'm sure they would have handed the script to Dabb & Loflin again. If it were going to be Cas-centric it would have gone to Edlund. I do think Carver will get writing credit for the premiere. He needs to mark his stamp upon the series early.

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  35. SupernaturallyMe3 July 2012 at 09:19

    What?

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  36. nellymendezcolon3 July 2012 at 10:54

    ..I am reply about the tittle of the third episode of supernatural season 8 is it directed by jensen....heartache..and in his possible storyline develop or direction..//that’s it... don’t over react about it.///

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  37. tvmonkey3 July 2012 at 11:49

    It could be referring to the Cult involved that Sam is hunting, maybe they pray on people who are suffering heartache, people who have lost someone, are lonely, perceived as vunerable? You know as Cults often do.
    This would connect Amelia to the hunt, if she lost someone to the Cult and/or becomes a target?
    Sam would also be linked not only because he is hunting but because maybe he is without Dean at this point?
    Myabe Sam and Amelia just hit it off while Sam's investigating, maybe she'll have to fix him up? The 'Heartache' doesnt have to be directly connected to Sam and Amelia together, IMO that would be predictable. Maybe it can just be left open ended to be revisited at a later date?
    The best episodes of SPN are the ones that successfully connect the brothers story with the mythology/MOTW story. There is huge potential here to get inside Sam's head. I hope JC does a good job with this storyline even when he isnt writing an episode I expect there to be tighter controls over the quality of the writers this coming season.

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  38. tvmonkey3 July 2012 at 11:52

    you don think that would be a bit too obvious and repetative?

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  39. chris6843 July 2012 at 12:01

    I tried to watch the witches episode a few nights ago because I haven't seen it since it aired, but I couldn't get past about 20 minutes before I got bored and turned off the TV. If I remember correctly, in that episode they had both Sam and Dean as equal opportunity idiots who couldn't even cast a spell on a couple of witches correctly when they had Bobby phoning in instructions to them.


    In Slice Girls they had Sam being extremely slow in putting the clues together and a lot of exposition when he finally did. His personality was also off - being overly dismissive and anxious. And in the Bobby ghost episode, they just didn't write Sam. He had no POV, no contributions to make to the hunt, and they even managed to write a brotherly scene of Sam and Dean sitting on the car eating tacos without giving Sam a single line of dialogue. Sam was equally slow in that episode - just then figuring out that Bobby was attached to the flask (complemented by a lot more exposition) - forgetting Hunting 101 when they learned that if a ghost's body had been burned and the ghost is still around, they've probably attached themselves to a personal item.


    I don't want Sam's first centric of the season to be written by someone who thinks Sam's IQ is about 80. If they don't even get that Sam is smart, then they really don't know his character at all. On the plus side though, they seem to write some decent brotherly banter scenes. And they're big on the get-naked-and-have-sex scenes for Dean, which scares me a little with this episode because I'm not sure it's the right touch for Sam right now.


    This is going to be a test for Carver. We know he can write, as Gamble could too, but can he mentor and direct the bad writers on his team so that they produce good work? Gamble couldn't and that's why last season was such a mess.

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  40. Folie-lex3 July 2012 at 22:44

    Okay then.... not incredibly imaginitive but it will depend on how it fits in the context of the episode...

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  41. Shaula Dfn4 July 2012 at 00:38

    Ausiello posted about it saying it's a "long-held romance ban and giving Sam a new longish-term girlfriend named Amelia". Definitely returning character, then.

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  42. Donna C4 July 2012 at 02:26

    I didn't see an overreaction, just a question of "what?". Because I wasn't sure what you meant, either.

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  43. isleofskye4 July 2012 at 05:37

    Mmm. This just doesn't sit too well with me.

    We already have Castiel disturbing the dynamics between the brothers and now we're going to get someone else to occupy screen time, taking it away from the Winchesters.
    I can live more than happily with a show that does not have love interests in it but obviously Hollywood thinks we can't!

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  44. Dahne4 July 2012 at 05:53

    We don't know what longish means yet or even if that correlates to a lot of screen time. For all we know yet, she could have been the girlfriend during the time jump and leave pretty quickly when the episodes actually start. Theirs could also be a phone relationship. We'll have to wait and see.

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  45. isleofskye4 July 2012 at 07:25

    You're correct, of course. Jumping to conclusions is wrong, and I hope I am too. :)

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  46. KatAdams035 July 2012 at 01:08

    I heard over at Spoiler.tv that Buckner and Leming are the writers for this episode. I'm not impressed. The fan-fiction team who seem to have very little interest in writing the Winchesters are writing a Sam-centric episode? It's going to be a Sam episode without Sam in it! Ugh, that sucks.


    I haven't liked a single episode they've written. Actually, come to think about it, the best episode for me that they have written was Route 666. At least Sam and Dean were somewhat smart in that episode. The Winchesters only didn't know about racism!


    In "Shut Up, Dr. Phil" they had no interest in really writing the Winchester, but did alright with the banter. "Slice Girls" way too much happening and they had to write Sam slow and dumb to make the episode work, which is always bad writing. They had to write Dean over-sympathetic so he didn't look cruel to his monster daughter, but in doing so they made Sam appear like killing Emma was pay back for Amy instead of the right thing to do. And "Of Grave Importance" was a Bobby episode where the Winchester did nothing except find out they slept with the same woman. (I think you could count the number of lines Sam and Dean had on your hands.)


    All their episodes ooze with dime-a-dozen cheap fan fiction traits. Between random hook-ups for Dean, Sam and Dean having to be rescue by a dead father-figure, and Dean as a father, I'm not impressed. They set up their episodes so Sam and Dean have to be incompetent in order for the episode to get off the ground. Or they have to have one character dismiss everything his brother is saying to keep the plot going!


    I'm worried about the episode. Buckner and Leming simply don't write good stories. They write stories that have to change the fundamental basics of the main characters to work. Maybe Jeremy Carver will show to be a better leader than Sera Gamble. But I feel sorry for Jensen. Last season, he got a terrible script that was over-plotted and introduced one of the worst story-lines in Supernatural. And now, he is getting a script from writers who appeared to have no interest or understanding for the Winchester and it is introducing a controversial character. (I'm really worried about the love interest now since Cassie and Lydia were so terrible. )


    Right now, I feel like only thing this episode has going for it is that it wasn't written by Adam Glass.

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  47. keithfan7 July 2012 at 15:22

    This is the 3rd episode of the new season and Jensen is directing it, so it will probably be a Sam centric one. Maybe someone from his past or what he could be going through right now if Dean is still stuck in Purgatory. Looking forward to it and a new season very much and wish we did not have to wait until October for it to begin!

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