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Supernatural - Episode 7.22 - There Will Be Blood - Sneak Peek

May 7, 2012

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  1. Bobby's really starting to get all vengeful spirit on them. The mirror breaking was a little terrifying.

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  2. Was kind of waiting for Daniel Day Lewis to show up as a Leviathan. So are we to think Crowley brings the Alpha back to life? (If he is even dead to start with)

    I'm thinking more the righteous man is NOT Dean. But I have no idea who. Unless it ends up being the prophet, Kevin.

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  3. Maybe now some fans will understand why Sam and Dean are so hesitant around Bobby.

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  4. I was wondering when things would really heat up with Bobby... he might be spiraling!

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  5. Did the Alpha Vamp ever actually die (for good)? I thought he got away from Samuel and the crazy Campbells, never to be seen again. I could be wrong, but I thought maybe he just disappeared from the radar.

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  6. I don't know, I think it's going to take something hugely violent and out of character to get everyone to understand haha... but I'm with you... this is why I (along with Sam and Dean) have been a bit hesitant around him since he came back.

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  7. lol So true. I was side-eyeing the warm and fuzzy reactions coming from some fans re Bobby as ghost.

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  8. Okay that was scary :( I just hope that all ends with Bobby choosing to go into the light rather then the boys having to do something about it.

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  9. Especially since its been canon since the beginning that when you become a ghost you start to lose yourself. I think In My Time Of Dying explained it.

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  10. I'm glad SPN is staying consistent on ghost canon, with Bobby going vengeful.

    But what is with Bobby as Exposition Monster? Before he was deus ex machina, but this new version where no research at all is done, and Bobby just appears to tell us all in a paragraph everything we need to know, [no sign of how he knows it] is lazy and very boring. Not to mention, it disconnects us from the world of SPN.

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  11. Pentadactyl MailMay 7, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Pretty much had the same thoughts as you.  Glad to see they're taking Bobby down the scary ghost route.  Not glad that Sam and Dean couldn't figure out a clue as simple as 'ruler of fallen humanity'  and 'father of fallen beasts' on their own.  Wow, they got dumb!

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  12. nellymendezcolonMay 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    i share deans reaction dont like that bobby moves sounds dangerous & creapy 

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  13. You know, I've always been aware that a huge part of being Bobby is embodying the voice of the token exposition but now that he's a ghost it seems a little weird because it's too obvious...

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  14. Everyones biggest complaint this season. 

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  15. My thoughts were that this is what would happen, Bobby will realise how close to loosing himself to the darkness he is and will chose to move on, which will also save Sam and Dean from having to be the ones to do it which I think is one of the reasons they are reacting to the Bobby the way they are. 

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  16. I agree.
    This season they seem to be tying to increase the dumbness of Sam and Dean from episode to episode!
    A good job Sam was supposed to be a Stanford genius and Dean a crafty, expert, cocky hunter!

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  17. It depends how quickly Bobby is changing.
    He might not be so reasonable as to pass on by himself.
    The writers might use it as a terrible twist actually having Sam and Dean send him on.

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  18. With the change of leadership it will hopefully get back to that next season.

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  19.  I'm really hoping that the throwaway line of "these tacos taste the same everywhere" is because they are made by the Leviathans and contain the new substance that makes people more stupid and more complacent.   It would fit with Sam and Dean missing obvious clues and gives the show a way to bring them back to being the smart hunters they once were.

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  20. That's so sad. I really hope they can just convince Bobby to move on after the fight with the Leviathans is over, because if Sam and Dean actually have to hunt him? I don't know that they could recover from that.

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  21. I can't remember and the network that shows two episodes every morning just got season six so I've only seen those episodes twice.

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  22. Well, the showrunner Carver sounds good and I really hope he lets us get back a little bit to Sam and Dean's original characters.

    I know that too many things have happened since the earlier seasons for things to ever be the same, but at least I hope we get a glimpse of their former essence and motivations; saving people, hunting things. :)

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  23. Sam needs to start eating his salads again.

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  24. Oh Bobby! You're not fine! The mirror thing was kinda scary. I really don't want him to become the vengeful spirit, because that would mean Dean&Sam would be forced to work against him and that would be even more heartbreaking than it already is...

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  25. Pentadactyl MailMay 7, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Ha!  Nice idea.  If they actually pull that, I'll be very forgiving.  That would be a great explanation for, well, this entire season.

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  26. Well that would be a good excuse. I could go with that. :)

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  27. Except that we saw how loopy Dean was after just half a burger. Sam and Dean haven't seemed stoned and complacent, just slow on putting things together.

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  28. Pentadactyl MailMay 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    Hmmm... maybe they'd already widely inserted low concentrations into the food supply, but were experimenting with higher doses b/c it wasn't working fast enough and it was the higher doses that had the immediately noticeable effects.  Yeah...I don't think this is going to end up being the way they go.  But it explains so much!

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  29. That might be bad for Bobby but he got his point across.  If any of this vengeful spirit stuff helps take down Dick Roman then it's worth it anyway.  It's not like "ghost Bobby" will last forever.

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  30.  I still do think we will have human bobby back again. If not, let's just hope he will still be able to move on

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  31. But it would be right in line for SPN.

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  32. Maybe the cliffhanger will be the boys having to take Bobby down.

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  33. I still wonder about that righteous mortal. A human as light and good as the leviathans are dark ...

    I suppose it's a character we haven't met yet.

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  34.  I think it's going to take something hugely violent to get Bobby to understand. He is quite in the denial mood.

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  35. yep. I love the Ghost Bobby storytelling. I do hope for an happy resolution but it's SPN... there will be angst and heavy decisions :-/

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  36. We never saw him after he was snatched by Christian Campbell  and the other demons near the end of Family Matters. In the next episode, ADGTH, Sam snarked at Crowley "What? One Alpha Vamp not good enough for you?" and Crowley just glared at him. It is  conceivable that the Alpha Vamp escaped from his captors and never made it to Crowley's prison. 

    Scott - I think the "bone" is more likely from Kevin than Dean, too. The show hasn't said that the "righteous bone" ;) had to come from a dead person unless I missed something in 7.21. 

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  37. Yeah, I hope it was not a throwaway line either but then again we need to be cautious at not attribute every one of the boys' "not so bright" actions since Death's Door to the LeviaGoo in  their take out when it's actually less than stellar writing that's at issue. 

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  38. That's my best guess, too, that the Leviathans tweaked the base formula to make it slower acting and eliminate the low % that turned into "Reavers" (Firefly).  

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  39. Season 8 - Ghost Bobby finds a way to leave the flask and becomes season's Big Bad.  All idjits are simultaneously poltergeisted.  

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  40.  Aw, come on.  Don't put that out into the universe.  You're just begging for it to happen.

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  41. Actually season 8 should be an improvement compared to season 6 and 7, so enough with the BigBad everybody knows and has tight relations to the Winchesters.

    We had that it didn't it work poorly, to put it mildly? So new ideas would be nice, Mr. Carver....just saying.

    Season 8 should finally have interesting plots and keep fans watching, or we won't get seasons 9 and 10. :)

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  42. I hold out hope that it is Sarah from Provenance or Andrea from Dead in the Water.  Why?  Because I want those two characters to return.  :-)

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  43. I completely disagree.  I think that the Leviathans have been kind of dud-ish this season partly because the Winchesters had no real connection with them.  Compared with YED and even Lucifer's Apocalypse party, the story had more tension when the Winchesters had a more personal interest in the Big Bad than this.

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  44. Ha!  Actually I am hoping for significant Crowley time next season.

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  45. One of them returns, hugs all around, the Winchesters tie her down and then proceed to saw off her leg to get her bone.

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  46.  If they give him a good story and if it means more Meg, I'm all for that too.  The show doesn't need new monsters or new foes.  SPN needs better storylines and better use of the recurring characters already at their disposal.

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  47.  Sarah then just to see if she still have feelings for Sam ;-)

    Now that you mention it ... It would be interesting to have a character who met the brothers in season one cross their path again.
    Have that character gave his/her pov on how the brothers have changed etc.

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  48. Sorry I should have phrased it better with "BigBad everyone knows" I was commenting  on season 6, the Castiel and Crowley aliance.

    I totally agree the Leviathan have no connection whatsoever with the boys.
    I guess having Dick killing Bobby should have served as some kind of connection, but once again it was a nice idea, that just didn't work for me.

    Well, what's done is done, it can only get better, next season.  

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  49. Bobby is heading towards that vengeful spirit vibe he keeps that up he might not be able to come back from it.

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  50. Ah, I get it.  I have high hopes for the season 8 villain too.  It's number 2 on the things I want to see in season 8.

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  51. I've been hoping beyond hope that they run into Michael again from Something Wicked and find out that he became a hunter a few years after the shrtiga incident.  I think he would make a great junior hunter.

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  52. I'm always up for more Crowley, plus even Meg said "Crowley is always the problem", biding his time, covering his own posterior, allying with the strongest characters on the chessboard. In S5 and the beginning of S7, it was the Winchesters, next he tried to cozy up to Dick Roman but Dick refused to fall for Crowley's offer of alliance. Crowley wants to be rid of the leviathans as long as it doesn't cost him his corner office too soon. 

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  53. SupernaturallyMeMay 8, 2012 at 6:24 AM

    "Cas ain't exactly in the problem-solving mode, Bobby."
    Understatement of the year.

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  54. Yeah I'm hoping that this will happen but as isleofskye  pointed out I think that it does depend on how much Bobby is changing especially since he has been a ghost for quite a while and he might be forgetting how to be human. I really hope that it doesn't come to this and that the boys get him to go into the light peacefully because they, especially Dean, don't need the extra angst.

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  55. Very true.
    The Winchesters give their best when it gets right up and personal.
    Remember what happened to poor Gordon Walker! :)

    The Leviathans are like any other "monster of the week" and although they need to be put down, they haven't personally provoked great damage to Dean or Sam.
    The boys are really still getting over the effects of the Castiel/Crowley alliance of season six.

     It would be nice if they managed to come up with a new villan, but one who had some sort of personal bone to pick with the boys.
     There is still the fairy realm to explore for example. Dean was supposed to remain there, then the same with the alpha vamp, Dean was one of his "children" for a time and he wanted to make soulless Sam into the perfect animal.

    These are only things I'm throwing in, but maybe the writers could come up with some unresolved moment in the earlier seasons that could come back and kick the Winchesters in the rear-end, making it both new and personal.

    We'll just have to wait and see what they come up with but I have a good feeling about next season. :)
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  56. Now that's a good sneak peek.

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  57. Leviathans were different. They didn't want to take over the world by burning it to the ground. They were secretly putting their plan of "Hide in Plain Sight" into motion. They wanted to stay unnoticed but yet take the Winchesters out so they  caused their own failures. They couldn't send enough after them risking discovery.It's like they'd need a Leviathan Seal Team to take them out.

    The only thing they've accomplished other than TurDuckEn is stripping the boys of just about everything. Boring, yes.

    More fans like Dick than are afraid of him. YED, Alastair, Lillith, Eve, Lucifer and Crowley were all very evil and at times (Eve could be lumped in with the Horselessmen) downright frightening. Not so for Dick.

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  58. ♥something wicked: weechesters-dean daddy complex♥

    Another awesome idea. The brothers would feel responsible, I'm sure.
    In their view, having someone becoming a hunter after he met them would put them  in their dad shoes.

    And please, stop naming season one awesomes episodes, my list of things I want to re-watch before next season is already huge enough ;-D

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  59.  Dean has the knack for sarcastic understatement :-)

    In the previous episode, despite "not liking conflict" Cas intervened the minute the angel lady threatened Dean.
    I still has the protecting the winchester reflex. I'm sure he will come to their help when needed. He just need a little time to solve his own problems.

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  60. I was wondering about that. Didn't the reaper said there was no way back or something like that?

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  61. Pentadactyl MailMay 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    I still haven't given up on the idea of a Big Bad that does not have a personal tie to the boys.

    Yes, the Leviathans technically fit that bill.  But like most of the other ideas I found appealing at the start of the season (back to basics, brotherly bond, cut off from their normal resources) they completely failed to deliver.  And like most of those ideas, I'm still waiting to see it and would want it for next year.

    The biggest part of wanting an impersonal Big Bad for me is wanting the boys in the fight because they WANT to be in the fight, not because they have to.  By also making this season the season where Dean questions being a hunter and Sam focuses on his quiet internal battle, they really took that away.  It just left them with no reason at all.  To me, the fix that I want to see here is to give them their drive back, not to make them have to get involved.  Otherwise, dollars to donuts, we're back to Angry!Dean and Sulky!Sam.

    Other reasons I would like to see an impersonal Big Bad are that I want to see (a) them work to save the world and just themselves and (b) not having to force a tie to the boys should open up avenues to make the bad guy more interesting and weird.  Unfortunately what this season gave me instead was Dean's the world wants to commit suicide speech and the Leviathans shoved way in the background and no more interesting (less, in fact) than any bad guy we've had so far.

    Mostly, I don't want super-special boys chosen for the mission by destiny.  The chosen one plot is always really lame to me but I was willing to go along with it the first go around (Seasons 1-5) because it was central to the definition of the characters and the heart of the plot.  But once was enough.  I don't want them being magically chosen twice.  That's too absurd for me that two unrelated bad guys would decide our boys were the most special in the universe and the most deserving of whatever.  And I sure as hell don't want to see more angst about it.  If I see either one of them give the 'why me?' speech again, it's going to be painful (in a bad way).

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  62. Sam? Who's Sam? Wait.. is he the other brother? You know, that really tall one with the long hair? Wonder what's going on with him. I mean, we never hear anything about what Sam's dealing with or going through or really see things from his perspective, I almost forgot about him and his salads.

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  63. I haven't lost all hope of that either and I think it's a much better way to have JB continue guest starring on the show. I *think* I read recently that JB is open to continuing on SPN, 

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  64. IA ;). The Winchesters would even have to saw the whole leg off - just a toe would do, lol lol

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  65. I'm so worried about Bobby. I have a feeling it ain't gonna end well.

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  66. Look at the thing that Dean is shoving back into his jacket in the picture from the TV Guide scan.  That doesn't look like any toe bone! 

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  67.  This is a good post.  If they had started off the season with Sam and Dean discovering something terrifying that the Leviathans had planned, then knowing that they were the only ones who knew enough to be able to stop them would have been enough to motivate Sam and Dean and to get us excited about how this would play out. It would have been more believable to me if the Leviathans had targeted Sam and Dean, not because they were special, but because Sam and Dean hurt them in some way big enough to get their attention.  If Sam and Dean still had personal connections out in the world, that could have been used to increase the tension.  For example, if Lisa and Ben were still in the picture, they could have had a Leviathan teaching in Ben's school.

    The key is good writing that keeps upping the suspense and making us feel Sam and Dean's fear.  I've become a big Walking Dead fan, and the show built a half-season arc this year around one missing child.  They showed us what it meant to these characters to save this child, and almost every episode included some kind of rescue attempt. It culminated with an incredibly powerful scene.  Walking Dean is another monster show where people die gruesome deaths all of the time, but through good writing they made us care about this one child who we didn't even know all that well before she went missing. For us to care, all the writers need to do is make us believe that Sam and Dean care, because we already care about Sam and Dean.

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  68. I was trying to be *cute* and not damage either Andrea or Sarah too much. It looks like a sharpened rib or lower leg bone. I'm also dying to know where Dean got his fancy new jacket <3!

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  69. Is it just me or only angry ghost make all the cold around them? :S doesn't look too good...

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  70. I'm worried
    about Bobby.


    We all
    know, what we do with ghosts that go crazy. I don't want Bobby to end like
    that.

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  71. AWESOME sneak peek! Loved the mirror breaking! Maybe Bobby will be the big bad next season? lol, nah, 'course not. 

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  72. Oh no, looks like 7 more years of bad luck for Dean!

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  73.  I think it's going to take something hugely violent to get Bobby to understand. He is quite in the denial mood.

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