THE FRINGE TEAM TAKES NEW SHAPE AS THE IMPACT OF PETER'S HEROIC CHOICE UNFOLDS IN THE FOURTH SEASON PREMIERE OF "FRINGE" FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, ON FOX
Just one week after Peter Bishop saved the day and was then wiped from existence, the truce between the two worlds remains intact and the two sides are forced to work together. Lincoln Lee joins the Fringe team as they investigate a shapeshifter case that is very personal to him in the "Neither Here Nor There" season premiere episode of FRINGE airing Friday, Sept. 23 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FR-401) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham; Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop; John Noble as Walter Bishop; Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles; Blair Brown as Nina Sharp; Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth; Seth Gabel as Lincoln Lee
Guest Cast: Joe Flanigan as Robert Danzig; Shauna Johannesen as Julie Danzig; Charlotte Williams as Amy Danzig; Sean Michael Kyer as Jonathan Danzig; Stephen Lobo as Agent Frazier; Colin Lawrence Agent Roach
Joe Flanigan is going to appear...I like this already :-D
ReplyDeleteShapeshifters and Joe Flanigan? Me likey!
ReplyDeleteLINCOLN! Woo and shapeshifters! Also I had so forgotten Joe was going to be in it
ReplyDeleteif they drag the peter storyline out i'll be done with the show
ReplyDeletecant stand this from wyman/pinkner, lincoln better have a real reason to be in the show now, I want broyles, nina, astrid centric episodes, and lincoln lee gets one on his 1st attempt, WTF? and ell1son they are dragging it out for like the first 5 episodes atleast, i am as pissed as you are
ReplyDeleteHow unfortunate.
ReplyDeleteLast season was Olivia's and the original character was in like a little more than half of the episodes. I am sure they won't do that to Peter and once he starts to exists he'll be in the center of things.
ReplyDeleteA shapeshifter connected to Lincoln...Interesting, I hope we'll know more about him. I love Lincoln and I hope he'll be working with Peter I loved it in 3x17! Joshua and Seth have a great chemistry!
ReplyDelete3 more weeks, I hope they dont introduce Peter back in at end of ep 4 or 5 and then take a hiatus for 3 or 4 weeks. that would suck
ReplyDeleteYou can't hardly compare. The premiere was entirely dedicated to our Olivia. She got every alternate episode focused on her and Anna had the other half focused on her alternate character,
ReplyDeleteJosh won't be in, at least, 3 episodes. No episodes focused on Peter and Peter himself might not be back till the second half of the season.
And finally they reveal, that Lincoln is going to be Peter's. Oh sorry! Peter never existed and this is a completely different show!
ReplyDeleteNo comparison, at least Olivia/Anna was in every single episode even if she wasn't herself, Josh/peter will not in the episodes AT ALL.
ReplyDeleteYou are right about the premier but after that Olivia wasn't there until Abducted. Yes you saw little parts of her but in the Plateau and Amber 31422 that was 95 percent of Alt!Liv and then there were the over there episodes, and the Bell posession. She wasn't in at least 5 episodes at all and just few minutes in 4. I can't imagine it will be worse for Peter. And it's gonna be his season.
ReplyDeleteAt least you got Anna Torv who was in every single episode while Josh fans won't be seeing him at all. Look at from that perspective.
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ReplyDeleteMe too! (But no Kirk Acevedo?! ::Sad Face::)
ReplyDeleteNot every single one. Neither of them were in Subject 13. And Josh was missing for a few episodes or were hardly in them last year, too. It's gonna be different because he'll be absent in following episodes... But actually I am not sure if the fact that he doesn't exists will stop the writers from writing him parts in those episodes, too. And we know he was filming something already. Maybe Projection!Peter comes back...
ReplyDeleteactaully because of the expereinces they both had, the Olivias started to change after they returned to their universe -so really I think Anna played like five versions of Olivia.
ReplyDeleteGo Joe! Can't wait to see him on Fringe.
ReplyDeleteI totally forgot about the whole Joe Flanigan addition. Awesome that he's in episode 1! And can't wait to see more of Lincoln Lee this season! Both versions of him!
ReplyDeleteI hope we see more of Over There's Lincoln Lee instead of Our's.
ReplyDeleteYeah i think so too! -Either astral projection, flashing in and out of reality, or just a criminal on the run Peter could all happen! -But I have never mind of Peter being written as a shadowy -duel character, because it seems obvious that he is so important to being able to change everyone else. He sometimes is like the mysterious shadow that looms over the series...
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I think it would be wonderful if this reset was like the Christmas Carol for Peter's future (as I already think he mirrors Desmond in LOST) and he has to see what life is like 'with out him the way he was' in order for him to change, take on a more specific role, find his true identity, and continue to drive things forward.
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ReplyDeleteOlivia in The Plateau and The Abducted was our Olivia, just like Peter in The Last Sam Weiss was still our Peter, in spite of the head trauma. Yes, she was acting under Fauxlivia's memories, but it was Olivia who would save the day and her personality was constantly leaking. And by the way, Olivia in S3 wasn't exactly like Olivia in S2. She changed a lot and yet she was still our Olivia.
ReplyDeleteIt can't be worse for Peter? How about 0 screentime? How about Josh being sidelined by the showrunners once again? And it's gonna be his season? Who told you that? That has been a wish of the fans for at least 2 years, but it's only a wish. The showrunners have already answered that question, when a fan asked if S4 was going to be Peter's season. The answer was no. They explained this is the season, where they will explore the other characters without Peter's existence. Oh, but don't worry, in the end, he's very important. In a very conceptual way, because he doesn't exist.
should be a great episode :D
ReplyDeleteI had no idea there was going to be a one week time jump! Great idea.
ReplyDeleteIn Abducted? Sure a 100% but in The Plateau or Amber 31422? Not so much. She was there but hardly. It was Alt!Liv with a cortexiphan treated brain and body. She had no idea what was happening to her that is why she needed Projection!Peter. Basically Projection!Peter was our!Olivia trying to convince Alt!Liv that she is not going mad and those weird doesn't making any sense memories are actually her real ones. And your comparison between s2 and s3 Olivia goes for Peter, too. He changed a lot, too. And you know, I was quite suspicios of head trauma Peter because he really wasn't himself...
ReplyDeleteAnd seriously what's with this zero screentime idea? Who told you that? Maybe for the premier but it seems he'll be in dreams and who knows what else... Why is all the negativity? Josh is on board he is working and we know that for sure. I know it sucks that he won't be there as much but he was missing from whole episodes last year, too and you and everyone else managed to survive that. And he'll start exicting that's a 100%. Actually with all the Peter hate going on showing how everyone lives would suck without him maybe changes a few's opinion.
Well, according to set reports and set pics, Josh was nowhere to be seen and I recall in the EW.com interview that everybody else was filming without him not to mention the rumor that Josh won't be filming until late Sept.
ReplyDeleteBut you know, you will never understand until its Anna's screentime that was cut in half and she won't be in all the episodes.
I've read most of the comments, and I'm just gonna say that personally I'm gonna chill and just watch the story unfold. I learned from LOST that you can't get too many hopes up, because what you find creatively right or wrong with a show makes no difference in what actually transpires. So Theories are great and I like em all, but that's all they are, fun for the masses until we get fresh product. The showrunners are gonna do what they want, and I'm gonna try to enjoy it like I would a book. If the ending sucks, well so be it, wouldn't be the first time.
ReplyDeleteJust Trust the showrunners, and see....or not and be ticked off. But it's your choice to watch or not.
The spoilers told me that. He didn't go to Vancouver till a few days ago to film only one scene, in which he probably just plays an apparition. That means no new Josh till episode 4 and no Peter, till who knows when.
ReplyDeleteOh, really? So because you (or some random people) hate Peter/Josh, he shouldn't be in the show? People who like him, should suck it up? Does that mean, that if there are people out there, who don't like Olivia, Anna should take a long break, too? Come on!
Yes, we managed to "survive that". We were also given many promises, that it would be worth it for Peter as a character. They lied. Now they plan to not have him for half a season and we have to shut up and say everything is awesome? Aren't you being a little unfair here?
Isn't being Peter's replacement good reason enough?
ReplyDeleteI guess you didn't see this: http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/08/thanks-to-fringewatch-for-sending-us.html or this http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/08/fringe-season-4-first-set-photo-of.html . He was already filming some scenes. And this just the one they did in "public".
ReplyDeleteI guess preparing yourself for the worst is a good strategy but I am simply not even willing to consider some real dramatic Peter absence.
I'm sure I'm gonna get hate for this comment, but I feel like it's a lot of fan-girling for one particular actor and not for the love of the entire show and storyline. The character of Peter is vital to the show, he didn't die, this season starts out all about his character and what his presence means to the other characters. As Ron Burgundy would say, 'he's kind of a big deal.' And as with this show in the past, you have no idea what this show will do until you actually see it happen on screen. Example? The last few moments of the season finale. People just need to enjoy the epic-ness of the writing on this show and embrace it and realize that it's a show about a bunch of characters.
ReplyDeleteWho said I hate Peter or Josh? Seriously? I don't think I wrote anything indicating that. I just mentioned that there are people who feel like that. Your negativity is actually almost start to scare me 'cause I never even considered him being away more than 4 epis at tops and even that with some sort of presence.
ReplyDeleteAnd you keep saying that he won't be in half of the season... Where did you read that 'cause I start to feel like I've missed something...
I recall people doing the same exact thing when the rumor that somebody was going to die in the season finale and people were afraid it was Olivia. I recall some folks even saying "Kill Olivia=Kill the show" so sorry but people tend to fangirl over Olivia and walter just as much as peter.
ReplyDeleteLike I said above: People just need to enjoy the epic-ness of the writing on this show and
ReplyDeleteembrace it and realize that it's a show about a bunch of characters.
Only 3 weeks left!
ReplyDeleteTechnically 5 episodes is not half a season, they got a full order so it's a quarter season. Or less, How many did they get? 23- 24?
ReplyDeleteFaith, in the show is better than being ticked at it. Its obvious you are passionate about the show, so chill and you'll feel better.
I remember reading or hearing John Noble say that the first part of the season is a four or five episode mini arc. That Peter's Presence would be felt but not seen, per say.
ReplyDeleteYes that would suck, and had never occurred to me till now. Sigh...
ReplyDeleteNo, totally agree. Just voiced my opinion on that on another site as well, people judging something that is not going to be what we think anyway. I hate that fans get off on one actor because he's (she's) more in it or not. Josh himself said this is not a show about the characters. It's a show about the show and I love that. Yes, everyone is entitled to have their favorites. And I do. But as a true fan we need to embrace the whole packet, which I love with a passion. Check out my car: http://shirtlessfrank.tumblr.com/page/2
ReplyDeleteooh i wonder if the case ties into Lincoln has anything to do with Nick-I think his name was. I remember when alt Lincoln saw him in the park in season 2 finale he seemed to know him and was very shocked to see him.
ReplyDeleteThat's odd. If the two sides are working together and the "over there" people are the ones that deployed them, then what the hell are they up to?
ReplyDeleteLooks great... Still I am a little concerned...
ReplyDeleteFringe was "on a bubble" during Season 3 gladly they did get a S4. However now Peter will "be missing in the first 5 epi's" and it seems that we get a sort of a "Re-Boot" + the first three Season{s} appeared now as "not happened" I truly hope the watch-numbers will stay the same. A lot of Josh Fans aren't thrilled with the "no Peter" thingie.....
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ReplyDeleteVery cool link! Thanks
ReplyDeleteI'm confused about this whole '5 epi thing' that everyone is quoting. That number wasn't said as a 'definitive' - he comes back in as a 'regular' at the end of epi 3 or 4 and that there will be some element of 'Peter' in each episode anyway. In fact the first promo for 401 you hear Peter's voice to Walter. If his 'fans' don't tune in b/c he's not in a lot of the episodes then they aren't fans of the show then and that's a shame and don't care about the storyline then.
ReplyDeleteI definitely plan to do that.
ReplyDeleteI said "you (or other people) hate", because I wasn't sure. That whole people hate him and not having him on the show would change the other's opinion sounded kind of suspect. If you don't hate him, what you said is even more confusing.
ReplyDeleteJohn Noble said that this first story arc, the Peter-less universe, would last 8-9 episodes. Josh was in Vancouver to film one scene for episode 4, but the actor that plays December said Peter won't be back in episode 5, either. Josh will probably appear a few seconds here and there as a ghost, but I don't expect Peter back (if they bring him back) until this story arc is over.
I wish it was that, but it's not. To me it's not so much about the actor, but the character. Otherwise I'd go and watch his past work, like I do with some other actors and actresses. The thing is that usually actor and character go together and they are part, however small, of the show, as much as people don't want to admit this. The "he's kind of a big deal" is part of the problem, because they never showed that on screen. So instead of developing the character organically and showing why he's kind of a big deal, all they do is shove him out of the show and write artifice.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with you, don't get me wrong! I just hear around me that a lot of Josh Fans are not willing to watch the show any further if "Peter" will stay a way for a long time....
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One week after? Oh no...
ReplyDeleteNice to see Joe Flanigan in a guest role in Fringe. . I wish he was regular :)
ReplyDeleteNice to see Joe Flanigan in a guest role in Fringe. . I wish he was regular :)
ReplyDeleteWhy? Because I am not freaking about his absence and going around saying I won't watch the show if Peter is not back in like the second episode? That automatically means I hate him? It seems to me that you tend to jump to conclusions too easily.
ReplyDeleteTo me the whole point of his non-existence is to show how important Peter is. That's why I said that it could change people's opinion who are not big fan of him. Seeing Olivia and Walter and the other without his influence, seeing how small things he did change huge things... I honestly think it could change the haters or at least make them more like neutral when it comes to him...
I'm afraid you're as guilty as me of misinterpretation. There are people out there, that don't like Olivia and there are people out there, that don't like Walter. Would that justify not having the actors and the characters in the show? To show the haters how important they are? I don't think so, but that's what you seem to imply. of course, you are free to like him or dislike him (and I'm not saying you do), but that can't justify not having him in the story.
ReplyDeleteFor some reason, I cannot dislike this arc without being accused of being a Josh fangirl or not a real fan. Surely I should feel ecstatic, that one of the reasons I watched the show is gone, for 5 episodes as far as we know, it could be more and it could be forever. And yes, it could be forever. The producers admitted, he won't come back as we expect.
Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree. You think my reservations aren't justified and I think the opposite. No need to repeat ourselves endlessly.
yeah, i'm not too happy with lincoln getting the spotlight in the first episode of the season either... broyles, nina and astrid earned that long before lincoln (i don't believe he has, actually). but what can you do? like Ricky Terry has said in a comment below, the showrunners are going to do what they want, so i'm just going to enjoy the ride! although i refuse to abstain from comment, just in case... ;)
ReplyDeleteNot sure why Josh fans get so much criticism for caring about Josh and how he is being used on this show but nobody criticizes the walter and olivia fans who only watch for them. The only reason why Josh fans are now vocal is only because Josh is really not given a lot to do for the last 3 years and for 2 years in counting, we keep seeing less and less of him. Would any of you like it if we saw less and less of Walter/John or Olivia/anna?
ReplyDeleteI think the point we're making here is that we are show fans, and not just Josh, Anna, or John Fans. It's about the story not the actors.
ReplyDeleteThere's this one obnoxious Peter/Josh fan girl who trolls every Fringe related forum, complaining about about Peter's third tier status on this show. She regularly gets banned on imdb, but keeps creating new aliases. Because of this, I simply assume that every loud/annoying Peter fangirl are in fact the same person.
ReplyDeleteTheres also a fan in the exact same mould for anna torv, sometimes i do wonder if their the same person just being annoying for the sake of it!
ReplyDeleteI think her name is "PRbabe" at least thats what she goes by on EW.
ReplyDeleteHa yes, she's been banned here and on the forums :)
ReplyDeleteI really hope Peter isn't a Observer.
ReplyDeleteClick on Rebecca Swan's name to link to this following treet.
ReplyDelete"I f*cking hate Anna Torv, What a bitch."
Rebecca sounds EXACTLY like PRbabe. Now you know why Josh fangirls (or most likely girl, as in singular) gets the most grief.