Unfortunately, this contest will overlap the Character Cup by a day or two. Normally I would stop the contest and then continue with it after the Character Cup ended. However, since we are so close to being done, I think I will just take that day. The day before the finals no new poll will be posted since we have to let the right side of the bracket catch up. Thanks to everyone who participated. It's been fun!
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Episodes Going to Round 4:
The End
Lazarus Rising
Changing Channels
In My Time of Dying
The French Mistake
What is and What Should Never Be
All Hell Breaks Loose, part 2
Abandon All Hope
What is and What Should Never Be is still my favorite episode. I still love the fact that both brothers are happy. For a while and in a dream state at least. We really need to see brothers laughing and smiling and experiencing some joy in season 7.
ReplyDeleteAll Hell Breaks Loose, part 2 is my vote for episode with the best balance. It has an abundance of emoangsting at the beginning but it's balanced with great brother moments in the middle and lots of action at the end. It also took tremendous guts to kill YED that early. For those reasons it gets my vote. Well that and the fact that I think Abandon All Hope is the weakest episode still left. Of course, it is also the most depressing so that might be why I think that.
What is and What Should Never Be + All Hell Breaks Loose part II.
ReplyDeleteThe French Mistake - Not a "what if." It wins by default.
ReplyDeleteAbandon All Hope - It's the best episode left. (contrary to what someone else has already said) :)
Overall I prefer AHBL but I found the hellhounds scene with Jo and Ellen to be the saddest most effective death on the show... Even more effective than the first time either of the brothers died.
ReplyDeleteGuess I am selfish but What Is And Waht Should Never Be wasn't a favorite because the brothers weren't close and weren't hunters. I love my Winchesters hunting. French Mistake wouldn't be a final favorite but it was hilarious!
ReplyDeleteI would agree with this. Jo and Ellen dying was not necessarily a shock but how they died and the choices they made created instant heroes out of them. In fact, I would say it is one of the best scenes in all of Supernatural. Unfortunately, for me the rest of the episode went downhill whereas All Hell Breaks Loose - part 2 kept on getting better until YED was shot.
ReplyDeleteI have come to accept that you and I will never agree. However, it's a lot of fun and your comments here and on other topics tend to make me smile/laugh even as I'm shaking my head. I live for the day that you see that I am right. :-P
ReplyDeleteWhile I don't think WIAWSNB and The French Mistake shouldn't of made it this far, WIAWSNB is miles ahead of The French Mistake in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteAll Hell Breaks Loose pt.2 for the second poll because it is my 2nd favorite finale and one of my favorite episodes because it showed the 'norms' Supernatural is willing to break.
The French Mistake and All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2 for me. I had a moment of doubt in the first poll, but AHBL2 was a clear winner for me in the second one.
ReplyDeleteOh, come on. It's better this way. Having conversations with people who agree with you all the time is boring. I love a good point / counterpoint.
ReplyDeleteI would agree. After that scene I was let down...
ReplyDeleteYou're literally the anti-Dahne.
ReplyDeleteWIAWSNB & AHBL2
ReplyDeleteHa! That's hilarious. I should put that next to my disqus screen name.
ReplyDelete"Bruce_F anti-Dahne"
In this I will concede the point. You are right. This is much more fun.
ReplyDeleteWhat is and What Should Never Be
ReplyDeleteAll Hell Breaks Loose, part 2
Hmm, it's just occurring to me that a lot of what I liked about both episodes centered around Dean.
Not selfish at all. We like what we like. I have to admit that usually I am a bigger fan of Winchesters hunting than any thing else (Winchesters crying, Winchesters hurting, Winchesters talking research....)
ReplyDeleteI'm odd about AHBL2 in that I like the beginning the least. Dean crying over a dead Sam is touching but I much prefer the 4 hunters taking on the demon gate and the killing of YED to any angst. My favorite parts of What is and What Should Never Be is Dean being comforted by Mary, Dean smiling over mowing the lawn, and Sam smiling over being engaged to Jessica. Yep, basically the fact that they smile most of the way through the episode does it for me. Oh and it had the coolest villain of them all.
ReplyDeleteAfter the car crash of season 1, I swore that Kripke could never surprise me like that again. Then came this finale and I was sure YED would escape to harass them another day. I was Kripked again and I loved it - actually more than the car crash which had me on tenterhooks for the summer.
ReplyDeleteThe French Mistake and AH2.
ReplyDeleteI have never cared much for WIAWSNB... too little real Sam and this episode seemed to start the trend of it being acceptable for the writers to just exclude Sam/Sam's POV from numerous future episodes.
French Mistake and Abandon All Hope. French mostly by default. WIAWSNB is cute, but alt "what if" eps are a dime a dozen, and I didnt think there was anything too special about it. AAH was solid all the way through - from the Crowley meet, to the pre-mission drinks, to the reapers, the Lucifer, Cas and Meg meetup, to of course the deaths. I thought the second half of AHBL was weak. They stand around and watch Jake open the devils gate, and Sam was so out of character it was hard to watch.
ReplyDeleteI agree. that would be a brilliant idea. :P
ReplyDeleteI chose The French Mistake because as much as I love WIAWSNB, I will always pick a happy/comedic episode over one thats more intense and emotional. I chose AHBL pt 2 over Abandon All hope because, of the two, AHBL Pt 2 was more fulfilling (Azazel dies, Sam gets brought back)
ReplyDeleteThat's one great thing about Supernatural is its willingness to shock the viewers by doing something that they don't entirely expect. I think for me, coming in while Season 4 was airing, the impact of the car crash in the Season 1 finale wasn't as shocking because I knew there were more seasons and I just got to watch the next episode right then.
ReplyDeleteWIAWSNB and AHBL pt 2
ReplyDeleteIf it comes down to WIAWSNB vs AHBL 2 i'm going to have a hard time...I think, however, with the premise of the show being about two brothers...I think i'm going with AHBL 2.
ReplyDeleteWhoever thought of this...BRAVO! Especially that you can click "vote" and stay on the same page. Well done.
picking these are just about emotions for me!!! i adore the funnies, love the sad, cry through most of them!!
ReplyDeleteThanks and welcome back to SpoilerTV. It's all Blogger and Polldaddy that let's the matches be embedded.
ReplyDeleteIf it comes down to WiaWSNB and AHBL2, I'm voting for WiaWSNB without hesitation but I'm going to be really bummed to do so. AHBL2 is one of my favorite episodes and one of the most action-filled when it comes to the later half. I love both episodes.
I'll have to agree with you on your choices. WiaWSNB is a very "pleasant" episode in parts. It was really sweet how excited Dean was when he first sees his mom, but it just gets more and more sad as it goes on, but never really tragic. It has always just been a "good" episode in my Book.
ReplyDeleteNow, AHBL2 is a pretty good episode, I love the monologue in the beginning and the confrontation at the end... and of course the crash is my biggest shock to date in any of the episodes... but I don't think the episode really builds. The beginning is so incredible, that I think it peaks and fades, peaks again during the exorcism and fades, then peaks during the YED part... but to me the best part is the monologue in the beginning and the crash. If we combined it with AHBL1, I would say it is my favorite last two episodes of a season...
However, Jo and Ellen's death scene is one of the most emotional things I have seen on any show. I freaked out more when Dean died over and over in Mystery Spot (I DID NOT FIND IT FUNNY the first time), but Jo and Ellen's death scene always breaks me up into a multi-minute crying jag. I just can't watch a mother watch her daughter die.... I just can't! I love it and hate it at the same time... The whole Lucifer thing was also pretty great... I even like the "Meg Bridge of Freedom". Not a favorite by any stretch of the imagination, but its definitely my favorite of the two.
Ok that one was a little easier. What Is And What Should Never Be and All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 2. Though Ellen and Jo's death is possibly the saddest moment in the entire series. The moment Jo dies, I can't get through that without sobbing. But as an overall ep AHBL2 is one I really enjoy....love the moment between Bobby and Dean in the junkyard. WIAWSNB is one of my all time favourite eps. I note that my two picks have Dean crying scenes.....justsayin'
ReplyDeleteWhat is... because it was more Supernatural than The French Mistake, which was hilarious but had more RL than the show in it.
ReplyDeleteAll Hell part 2, because if Jo and Ellen's death is what makes people love Abandon All Hope then it didn't have that effect on me.
I say yes to Dean crying.
ReplyDeleteWell today's is the easiest poll of all for me, up until now.
ReplyDeleteI have always found it difficult to choose, even in the earlier rounds, when it should have been less complicated.
1 ) What Is And What Should Never Be--wondeful episode.
The whole family reunited ( with John having died in a relatively normal way! ) having dinner together, Dean with Carmen, Sam with Jess, the whole apple-pie life.
The brother dynamic is not quite there but Dean is ready to work on that, then it all starts to crumble and dissolves into the " real world" with the bittersweet exchange at the end between Sammy and Dean.
A great villain and a moving story.
2 ) In a previous round I once voted against it because it was paired with A V S Christmas which I love, but this time there's no contest and AHBL part 2 gets my vote.
Abandon All Hope was a good episode too.
Ellen and Jo's heroic death, even although I'm sure that they would rather have remained alive, has to be saluted.
We get to see Crowley, my favourite of all the demons, Lucifer takes a bullet, and poor Sammy and Dean get another kick in the head from misfortune, as Luci doesn't die.
It's an episode that I tend to unfairly underestimate but it has good qualities of it's own.
Hey, I know where your''re coming from, but although Dean can't be beaten when he's crying, I just love it when he smiles, especially when he smiles at one of Sam's disapproving comments and when Sammy smiles back, unbelievingly, at his brother's comeback
ReplyDeleteOh I like him, smiling, crying, being angry.....
ReplyDelete" 'Nuff Said..................!" regards
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on What is and What Should Never Be. My #1. Between AHBLP2 and AAH was a toss up. AAH was wonderful & so tragically sad all around. AHBLP2 I love just for that last scene Dean being ripped to shreds by hellhounds and seeing him in Hell yelling for Sam. On this poll I went with AAH so I'm batting 500
ReplyDeleteIt's not *all* about the crying. :-D In AHBL2 It was the rage, the dealing, the desperation. And I do realize that it's a lot about Jensen's performance. The fight and the killing of the YED was part of the story element that made it such a great ep for me. All of it worked together to tie together the end of the season. I can't think of any wasted space in this episode.
ReplyDeleteWith WIaWSNB it's more a story thing...for me the episode defined why Dean is a hero. He had everything he wanted even the stuff he's not willing to tell himself he wants, but he chose to give it up for the greater good.
the french mistake and abandon all hope :)
ReplyDeleteToday I vote season 2 - What Is and What Should Never Be and All Hell Breaks Loose 2.
ReplyDeleteHad it been Bad Day at Black Rock vs WIAWSNB, I would probably have a problem choosing. The French Mistake is brilliant, but not brilliant enough to take on one of the Supernatural classics.
As for the other poll, no contest. I agree Abandon All Hope is the weakest episode in this round.
so you don't like the ending of AHBL? I for one love the brother talk and Sam assuring he would save Dean this time. And then Bobby comes in and says a lot of demons got out and they'd have a lot of work to do, which got me excited for season 3. For me AHBL was great from beginning to end.
ReplyDeleteI wish I didn't dislike Jo so much, maybe I would be able to get emotional during their death too. But I just can't. I was so relieved they got rid of the girl.
ReplyDeleteI do feel for Ellen when I watch it, though. I think she's the real hero there. I mean, Jo would have died anyway, so her sacrifice wasn't really that big. But to see a healthy woman sacrifice her life because she couldn't stand seing her child die is pretty damn epic. And really sad. I really did not have anything against Ellen.
But hence my dislike towards Jo, I will never find the scene emotional enough to beat tens of other scenes. In fact, even Dean making the choice to go back in WIAWSNB is far more emotional for me.
Supernatural has the tendency to put the characters in those no-way-out positions, which really makes you wonder how the hell they're gonna solve the twists they created. The biggest one for me was actually sending Dean to hell. The next one was letting Lucifer rise. In season 5 I think they overdid it, but then in season 6 they actually made Cas God. I'm dying to know what they're gonna do with it now.
ReplyDeleteso I'm not the only one who doesn't really feel that much during the Ellen/Jo death scene? ;)
ReplyDelete"poor Sammy and Dean get another kick in the head from misfortune" that's exactly why I'm not in love with season 5. Too many kicks from misfortune.
ReplyDeleteIf In My Time of Dying wins over The End, we're gonna hava a season 2 final (I really don't think WIAWSNB or AHBL lose in this round) and that's gonna be a hard one too. I remember last year when we were voting by seasons and I had to choose my favourite from season 2. Back then it was down to IMTOD and WIAWSNB (eventually I chose IMTOD), but that was before I rewatched AHBL 2 and re-discovered its brilliance. Now I really don't know how I'd rank these episodes, they're all so great, yet so different.
ReplyDeleteGot to agree 100% with you here.
ReplyDeleteThe brother talk at the end was so moving.
The fact that Sam wanted Dean to understand that there was nothing that he, too, wouldn't do for him, and the pleasure in Dean's eyes when he realized that Sam was speaking from the heart was one of those moments which, for me, defines Supernatural, and although I relish the action/ monster / myth-arc content of the show, without the brothers' loving relationship, it wouldn't be the show it is.
The ending was also optimistic as they were going to hunt the demons and get Dean out of his Crossroads deal. ( Oh well, they did try)
Yes, all in all it was a depressing season and it finished the way it started, although there were many great episodes in there too.
ReplyDeleteI just long to see the boys happy, together again and doing what they are best at, however it's clear that with everything they have been through it can never be quite the same as it once was.
Season 7 seems to be going a little bit lighter but it's usually 90% bad to10% good for Sam and Dean.
We'll just have to wait and see.
This one was easy for me. What is and What Should Never Be is still one of the best episodes ever done on the show. All Hell Breaks Loose for every thing about it. It had a great story. Dean's time with dead Sam was heart rending. That had to been a difficult scene for Jensen to film. There was great action towards the end of the episode. Killing off Azazel so early in the show was a surprise. I liked it though The interaction between Sam and Dean and Dean and Bobby were really good.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about AHBL 2, except the part were Sam was out of character. I think it was set up this way on purpose in order to prepare us for the lengths Sam would go to for his brother in season 3 (if the season panned out they way they planned before the writers' strike). So I voted for Abandon All Hope. As for The French Mistake, I think that meta/slapstick episodes are also too many in this series. So for me it came down to taste. I like TFM but I love WIAWSNB!
ReplyDeleteseem that I voted for the episodes which are winning! :)
ReplyDeleteI looove AAH & AHBL II. I voted for AHBL II though because as for AAH I just couldnt handle my puffy eyes the next morning :)
ReplyDeleteEasy for me, ''What is and What should never be'' & AHBL 2 :D
ReplyDeleteThe French Mistake & Abandon All Hope
ReplyDeleteAn easy one and a somewhat harder one
ReplyDeleteAbandon all hope is great but I'd doesn't come close the the awesomeness that was all hell breaks loose 2. That finale is just amazing
Now I absolutely love both the French mistake and what is and what should never be. But no matter jow great or funny or clever the French mistake was, WIAWSNB was just perfect supernatural. Great monster. Great story. Great emotion. I love every minute of it. That scene in the graveyard is one of my fave supernatural scenes of all time.
Can't wait for these last few rounds and for the chaRacter competition to start :)
I've never thought of it That way but it's right. Thats why I love the first two seasons. Everything was simple. They hunted monsters and saved people. They weren't always coming up with elaborate angel plans that kept failing on them in unhelpfull moments
ReplyDeleteThe only episode I really love here is AHBL2 I love both parts of that finale and was very upset that part 1 got knocked out. Part 1 was awesome Sam being with the other psychics, fighting it out, the reveal about the demon blood, and then OMFG Sam's dead! AHBL2 I love the beginning with Dean's desperation, and getting Sam back (woot brother hug though poor Sam was still injured), Bobby bitching Dean out about what he did was great, and then the end with the brothers talking was heartfelt and a great lead up for season 3. Unfortunately I find some flaws though with part 2 particularly the graveyard scene in that there are some things said that are never really brought up again or fully hashed out. They're just forgotten. For example YED's line to Dean about Sam maybe not being all Sam. The way he killed Jake was very cold for the Sam of that point in the series. But besides a brief mention at the beginning of season 3 it wasn't explored any further. And there were a couple other grips I have but won't rant on further since like I said above AHBL2 is definitely the best episode in this round for me.
ReplyDeleteAbandon All Hope wasn't bad but the episode as a whole is a bit scattered and pointless. The whole lead up of "we're going to kill the Devil and most of us will probably die" is the ultimate in lame considering it's episode 11 of the season and you know they can't kill Lucifer yet as it's too soon in the season. Actually what might have been kinda cool is if Lucifer had been killed by Death as he was brought forth. Could have been neat to be like Lucifer is raising the horseman Death, oops Death just killed your punk ass. That would have been a fun and surprising twist. As it was it was pretty obvious their plan would fail and bringing in Ellen and Jo for the first time in a loooong time just reeked of "we have characters we haven't used in a while so lets bring em in as fodder." Because obviously their plan was so hairbrained that if there weren't other characters along for the ride to get caught in the backlash it would have seemed too unrealistic for the boys to come out of that mess mostly unscathed. Yes it was sad that Ellen and Jo had to die that way but it was set up that way. They could have brought in any hunters to help but you bring in the mother and daughter and set up a heart wrenching death scene and you have the audience's attention. The absolute best part of that episode of the introduction of Crowley and that it set us up for meeting Death later on.
Between The French Mistake and WIAWSNB I'm torn from bad to bad. I wanted to love The French Mistake because I love when the show does meta and Ben Edlund does it the best. By itself the episode is pretty funny but you really have to be the type of fan that knows the fandom well for any of the jokes to come across. I had to explain the entire episode to my poor grandma and she still didn't quite get it. And then there is the fact that in the grand scheme of the season it's absolutely pointless. Hell after that episode we don't even get Heaven's weapons mentioned again and Cas never uses them against Raphael anyways. There were many ways they could have done the episode to be funny and incorporate the season plot in some way. It's why Changing Channels is a favorite episode of mine because it's funny and incorporates the plot but TFM is just pointless besides a few laughs if you're knowledgeable of the fandom.
That being said even though its definitely never been a favorite of mine my vote goes to WIAWSNB. Blah....
The French Mistake & Abandon all hope were my favourites out of these.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure Dahne was talking about AAH going downhill and that AHBL just got better...
ReplyDeletethe heaven weapons bother me too...
ReplyDeletewell, technically she said it was getting better UNTIL Yellow Eyes was shot. I just kinda assumed she meant she didn't like what happened AFTER that, but maybe I misunderstood.
ReplyDeleteThe tragedy of that scene for me is Ellen's sacrifice and Ellen watching her daughter die. As a mother of a 3 (aged 22-27) it was just incredibly emotional for me. I started liking Jo after Born Under a Bad Sign, I just never wanted to see her with Dean... She just always seemed to immature for him.... And do you know the girl who plays Jo (Alona Tal) was an Israeli soldier? But, because the powers that be wanted to play her as hot and sexy, she kind of lost any potential she had. Alona comes off like a teen ager in most of the episodes I saw her in.
ReplyDeleteI get what you're saying. They were trying to play up the "Sam came back wrong" mystery, which was know now was not true. But looking back I could interpret the changes as being due to Sam starting to suspect that Dean had brought him back from the dead - which meant that Dean had sold his soul and that Sam was now a whole new level of freak. But I would have preferred more subtlety in the way the changes were portrayed.
ReplyDeleteWith what you said about WIAWSNB, two things I have problems with are that Dean was starting to understand that this world wasn't real. Knowing that a monster is chewing you up while you linger in a dream is a pretty big incentive for wanting to leave it, so I don't buy that the hero part was the only reason he chose to wake up. The second thing is that Dean made the exact opposite choice in In the Beginning, when he chose to try to change the past knowing that if he succeeded, they would never become hunters and they wouldn't have saved all of the people that they did. Cas pointed that out to him, and he agreed that he still wanted to save his parents. I guess Hell happened in between those two episodes, so maybe that was the reason for the change in heart.
ReplyDeleteThis was actually pretty easy, even though I love all these eps :)
ReplyDeleteI voted for What is and What Should Never Be and All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2.
Two AMAZING episodes that I never get tired of watching!
I think you're talking about 'No Rest for the Wicked', not 'All Hell Breaks Loose Pt. 2'.. It was in No Rest for the Wicked Dean went to Hell... :)
ReplyDeleteMuch easier than last round. What Is and What Should Never Be ranks up in my top three of all time, so that was a no brainer. And I only felt guilty for a second or two when I pushed the little button for All Hell Breaks Loose, PT. 2.
ReplyDeleteTrue dat. :)
ReplyDeleteMeh...I don't know. lol
ReplyDeleteWilson's right. I did like the end of AHBL2 including the brother talk and Bobby's pronouncement. What I probably should have said to be more clear, is that YED being shot and the brothers standing over his body was the climax of the episode for me. However, I still liked the ending (resolution/denouement in 8th grade English teacher speak).
ReplyDeleteI was very excited for season 3 after that too. In fact, I would say it was necessary because although I love AHBL2 100%, by killing off YED it killed off a huge cliffhanger. Yes, we had the Dean demon deal cliffhanger but we knew that wouldn't be resolved until the end of season 3 while the car crash from season 1 had to be dealt with in the season 2 premiere. (Sorry if that does not make sense. :-) I know what I am trying to say.)
ReplyDeleteI also loved Sam's optimism and support in this scene. It made me optimistic as well. I hope to get some of this again.
ReplyDeleteIf the final four are who you think they will be (and I have to agree with you), then I will be happy all the way around. There's not a mediocre or lesser episode in the whole bunch. It should make voting fun.
ReplyDeleteSmiling trumps crying any day in my book. A true brothers together laugh though trumps it all.
ReplyDeleteAmen! Enough said.
ReplyDeleteI'd say amen to this but I wouldn't want to be redundant. I know the writers think they have to keep raising the stakes, but AI for one would relish at least a little simplicity and a lot of win in season 7. Dark and depressing has already been done to death of this show.
ReplyDelete"the ultimate in lame considering it's episode 11 of the season and you know they can't kill Lucifer yet"Very good point. It did seem odd to me when I heard the plot synopsis that they would even meet teh devil at that point. It bugged me from teh time I read it to the time the episode ended. Nothing like announcing right up front that your 2 heroes were going to be defeated AGAIN!
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