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Supernatural - Season 7 - New Promo - Kiss Your Cass Goodbye

20 Aug 2011

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103 comments:

  1. Dahne20 August 2011 at 06:55

    Awesome!  I keep watching this over and over again.  Too much whumping to see in one take.

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  2. ShatteredOne20 August 2011 at 06:57

    Damn that looks pretty cool.  But the thing that stuck out to me was Death is back!!!

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  3. Valentine20 August 2011 at 07:01

    WHAT IS GOING OOOOOONNN???  I swear to God, Sera, if you mess this up...

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  4. Dahne20 August 2011 at 07:05

    Funny because I was thinking Crowley is back.  :-)  He even yawns snarkily.  But yes, I'm excited about seeing both of them so early is the season.

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  5. jillyanne20 August 2011 at 07:06

    I can't wait another 5 weeks - this looks sooooo awesome. 
    Yaaaaay Crowley!
    Yaaaaay Death!
    Looks like Cas' meatsuit doesn't take kindly to being jammed full of souls.

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  6. pinkphoenix198520 August 2011 at 07:06

    thanks!

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  7. Suzanne20 August 2011 at 07:16

    Well unpopular opinion time, this promo sucked. I used to love supernatural, but since they decided to change everything and ruin the amazing characters I now no longer feel any affection. I won't go into my rant here because I don't want to bore people. And I'm not going to stop watching just because of what they did to Castiel, there's other elements, such as the whole "I'm Sam and I drink demon blood because I'm addicted to it, even if I did start the apocalypse." thing, along with the horrid Lisa/Ben/Dean thing.

    Yeah, bye show.

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  8. Laurie Edwards20 August 2011 at 07:22

    I'm going to miss Castiel; I'd rather have lost Crowley, if one of the peripheral characters had to go. I'm a never-say-die "Supernatural" fan, so the loss of Cass isn't going to keep me from watching--but it does sadden me just a bit.

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  9. Jas20 August 2011 at 07:38

    But we don't even know for sure what his fate's gonna be in the end. Wait and see.

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  10. Jas20 August 2011 at 07:38

    Still not sure what to make of S7 yet, but this promo looks good.

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  11. donna gafford20 August 2011 at 07:40

    love having this tonight with a rerun! jensen has said that one thing they needed to do was "to get the old cass back" so i'm taking that as a headsup for misha!

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  12. ShatteredOne20 August 2011 at 07:47

    They're both awesome guest stars!  With Crowley's nonchalant...ness and Death's presence, should make for a great start to the season.

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  13. Prpleight20 August 2011 at 08:23

    I will be patient. I will be patient.  It is possible for me to be patient.  Really.



    Is it time yet?

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  14. KatHale20 August 2011 at 08:39

    o_O
    No,I'm not kissing anyone goodbye..But,damn,that was great..and creepy!
    Well,two theories about what's wrong with Cas' meatsuit.The obvious one,that he can't contain a gazillion souls.
    OR,maybe the scene where he's lying in the blood is happening in his mind.You know,Cas(the angel)trapped inside his mind by all the souls.Highly unlikely,I know,but it would be cool!
    A little over a month.We can do it..somehow!

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  15. isleofskye20 August 2011 at 08:41

    Death and Crowley are two wonderful characters played to perfection by Mark Sheppard  and Julian Richings  and it's always a pleasure when we get to see them.

    I am so looking forward to season seven.

    We don't really know what will happen with the Angel arc but if it is going to be wrapped up, that's more than fine with me.
    It has played it's course, and I'm impatient to see new stories with the boys having to use their own wits and intelligence to get out of trouble instead of having to depend on all powerful beings snapping their fingers and resolving everything.

    Bring on Sam and Dean, the Impala and the wide open road.

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  16. cryptogirl20 August 2011 at 09:05

    That looks amazing!  I dunno how I'm gonna be able to wait!  P.S.  I think I just died a little.

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  17. Jmj20 August 2011 at 09:07

    no i don t want cas to die!

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  18. Jmj20 August 2011 at 09:09

    hm i liked the dean/lisa thing
    and sam isnt even drinking demon blood anymore.i hope they keep cas

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  19. varjotvirva20 August 2011 at 09:22

    It wouldn't only be a good idea, but it'd also mean that we wouldn't lose Cas quite this soon ... *sigh* I really wish you were right with this.

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  20. varjotvirva20 August 2011 at 09:27

    "The Castiel you knew is gone."

    This line is gonna haunt me until we see the episode. And then it's probably still gonna haunt me.
    So, if this is a promo about the end of the era "Cas" and Crowley and Death are in it ... is it safe to assume that they might help Sam & Dean & Bobby to ... well, kill Cas? God? Whatever-he-is-not?And also, I hate to see Cas go. I really really loved him so very much. He seems to get quite an impressive good-bye, but ... well. It's good for the show. I'm not saying I won't watch it anymore when he's gone. Geez, no. I love this show, with or without Cas. But I love Cas so much and it hurts me to think of only having a couple of episodes left he's gonna appear in.(*embarrassing confession* I think no matter how he's gonna go, I'll be the little girl I sometimes am and cry *end of embarrassing confession*)

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  21. yavemiel20 August 2011 at 09:47

    Oh wow, that was awesome! Are we there yet? No? Darn! Oh well, only...34 days, 17 hours, 12 minutes left to, we can do it!

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  22. KatHale20 August 2011 at 10:23

    Well,this may be just my wishful thinking,but I don't think they're gonna kill Cas.At least,not in the first two episodes..If he dies,and that's still a pretty big if,I think he's gonna die in the season finale.I mean,aside from what we want,it wouldn't make sense..The writers created an entire season that would lead to Cas opening Purgatory,they even wrote Eve in as a distraction,and the whole thing will be resolved in two episodes?!?It would be weird and kind of a let down..

    Plus,even though the actors try not to reveal anything,it's impossible not to catch a few things.For example,when Jensen said that the boys will have to find a way to bring the old Cas back somehow,I don't think he meant that they'll search frantically and then succeed or fail at the end of episode two...
    Of course,you never know with the writers,but that's how I see things! : )

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  23. Justine Kubica20 August 2011 at 10:50

    OMG! Poor Sam. He looks REALLY bad. Much worried about my boys right now. Not even starting with Cass.

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  24. varjotvirva20 August 2011 at 11:25

    Your logic is my logic (building up the this thing during the entire season 6 and everything) ... I just hope it's the writer's logic as well XD

    I mean, I somehoe get it. The angel-arc is getting old. There doesn't seem to be much new they can get from it.

    But it's Cas. He's been one of only 4 characters that could ever be considered "main characters" (yes, even though Jim Beaver has never been a regular cast member, he's the closest to a main character besides the brothers the show ever got, so Bobby counts as main character to me) ... he deserves some big, nasty, terrifying death. And not one that is being played out within the first two episodes of a new season.
    And I hope this is what's gonna happen.

    Still. Whenever it will happen. My "embarrassing confession" will apply ... XDD

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  25. Shimmerinstars7720 August 2011 at 11:53

    The brothers never really knew Cass,he's been lying to them since season 4 All of his crimes and betraying both brothers swept under the rug by Kripke.

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  26. ZoeF20 August 2011 at 12:03

    I love that at te very end, the promo photo they used to finish with is now the same motel room, now empty and that looks like Sam & Dean were attacked and left in a hurry.

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  27. jensenfan197820 August 2011 at 12:09

    This is going to be so good.  I can hardly wait.

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  28. Mia49420 August 2011 at 12:12

    I love the promo, but what the hell is wrong with Dean's hair?! :P

    other than that, the new season seems much more exciting than the last one! I do miss the good old Cas, though. I really don't wanna kiss him goodbye... for good. I hope we'll get him back someday... even just for a few minutes of one episode.

    is it time for the new season yet?!

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  29. Mia49420 August 2011 at 12:17

    really? he sacrificed everything for them in seasons 4-5. In season 4, he wasn't exactly lying to them, he just didn't know much. As soon as he found out, he went to tell Dean the truth but they dragged him back to heaven and brain-washed him. And he rebelled for them anyway. In season 5, he lost his powers and almost killed himself to help the boys. The lying only started in season 6, but you really cannot say they never knew the real Cas. They MADE him the real Cas.

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  30. Manto Tzefriou20 August 2011 at 12:39

    I can't say I have an opinion on this because the whole time I was thinking: Where is the Dean promo? I really don't want to start any wars, but come on! He is one of the two leads and half of the relationship this show is supposed to be about. When the Sam promo came out (which I found horrible because it was based on one of the worst episodes ever in the show's history, in my opinion) everyone was quick to reassure that of course there will be a Dean promo. Well, I'm still waiting for that.

    Anyway, when I'm not so mind-boggled I will comment about this promo specifically. 

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  31. klutzy_girl20 August 2011 at 12:58

    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE promo with new footage!

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  32. Jamie Coudeville20 August 2011 at 13:01

    great promo!

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  33. Carolina Monika20 August 2011 at 13:11

    simply -- WOW!

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  34. tvmonkey20 August 2011 at 13:24

    why is it every idiot who doesn't like the show any more seems to feel the need to announce that they're done with it? 

    news flash sweetheart no one gives a shit, don't walk away angry just walk away.

    Also Sam didn't start the Apocalypse on his own, he unintentionally broke the last seal, Dean unintentionally broke the first. Demons broke the rest, the angels knew what was going on and didn't do anything to stop it, even God let it happen. It was only down to Sam yet he seems to be the only one who was blamed for it and the only one who actually admitted his role in it and sought and achieved redemption. A lot of other characters got off really fucking lightly.

    Agree with the whole Dean/Ben/Lisa snooze fest though.

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  35. tvmonkey20 August 2011 at 13:27

    it's like Lucifer 2.0

    same self righteousness, vessel falling apart....it'll be interesting to see if there are any other comparisons between the two

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  36. chestal20 August 2011 at 13:36

    wow!!! :D

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  37. Charli Millions20 August 2011 at 13:40

    AHAHAAHAHAHHAH brilliant!!! Bye bye Castiel. Never was a fan.

    However Sam looks BEYOND beat up. What are they doing to the poor kid?

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  38. Charli Millions20 August 2011 at 13:43

    yaaaaaaaawn. It was ten second preview Dean was there talking as much as Sam was getting beat up which was all of 2 seconds, this was pretty much a Cass promo. Please for all that is holy, change the freaking record.

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  39. browniegirl2720 August 2011 at 13:59

    I believe Manto is referring to an actual Sam centric promo that aired a couple of months ago, not the promo above.  Either way, I don't expect there to be a Dean promo, but who knows, maybe they'll air one within the coming weeks.

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  40. Dahne20 August 2011 at 14:07

    Every point you made is exactly what I was thinking.  Let's move this story on the road and get back to the basics.  There's plenty on earth to keep them occupied.  No need to add more of heaven and hell.

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  41. Dahne20 August 2011 at 14:10

    I wouldn't expect to see the end of Cas that soon either.  In fact, since this show tends to cater to its fans, my guess is that for better or worse, Cas will be back in some form.  I want the angel story done but I trust the writers to make it interesting however they resolve this corner they've backed themselves into.

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  42. Dahne20 August 2011 at 14:14

    I say we should be happy with getting a show promo so far away from the premiere.  It shows that the CW is at least going to give some love to Supernatural at this time.  The real test will be whether people see it aired during other shows' commercials.

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  43. Aryan Yadav20 August 2011 at 14:20

    I can't wait another 5 weeks  this looks soooooooooooooooooo awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......

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  44. chris68420 August 2011 at 14:25

    "Kiss your Cass goodbye."

    I don't wanna. *pout*

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  45. Mikaeru20 August 2011 at 14:55

    OMG Castiel...

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  46. isleofskye20 August 2011 at 14:58

     I don't know if you are in agreement with me here but while the Heaven/Hell arc was interesting at the time and brought us some great episodes, looking back on it now  I feel that it sort of took over the show and relegated Sam and Dean to secondary players always having their movements dictated to by superior forces.

     In the end they did their own thing but at the cost of great sacrifices which, I assume, but mostly know,  continued into season 6.

    Season 7 has to give us a Sam and Dean Renaissance and put them back in the saddle, united in brotherhood and leading the charge.

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  47. Diana Grigorescu20 August 2011 at 15:11

    I can't wait for season 7. "Kiss your Cass goodbye", hmm I don't reallywant to do this.

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  48. Fatma20 August 2011 at 15:22

    I am so looking forward to this!

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  49. Manto Tzefriou20 August 2011 at 15:32

    browniegirl27 is right. I was referring to the Sam promo a couple of months back. If I were a new viewer with no clue of the Supernatural story these promos would tell me that the story is about Sam and his redemption and Castiel with his new identity. In the Sam promo Dean was in it for a blink-and-you'll-miss-it second and in this one, as you said, 2 seconds. So how am I (the new viewer) supposed to know that not only there is a second brother but that he also is a co-lead? For me it doesn't add up... When it will add up I will "change the freaking record".

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  50. Mia49420 August 2011 at 15:34

    I agree with you as well. I loved how shocking it was in seasn 4 to find out there were angels and how excited I was to see them fight with the seal breaking and Lucifer rising, but then Lucifer and the Apocalypse came and went away and the angels are still here, playing their games. I hope season 7 is in the first place more about the boys and their hunts, but also that Cas is the last and only element of heaven we'll get.
    I wanna see them go back to the roots - but not the season 6 back to the monsters, I need them to go back to horror roots of season 1, to ghosts that made me afraid of looking in the mirror etc. I wanna be scared again.

    Having said that, I must admit I've enjoyed Castiel very, very much and I'm glad they continued the angel storyline in season 6, as it brought me Balthazar.

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  51. keithfan20 August 2011 at 15:40

    I was not going to wait to switch channels last night after watching "Mommie Dearest", and it is a good thing that I did not. Seeing the promo makes me so excited for season 7! So, it looks like there is going to be a showdown between "God" (Cas) and Death and it seems that poor Sam is going to pay the price, too. We know that Mischa is not going to be a season regular this time, but isn't he in at least the first 4 episodes of the season? I could be wrong, but if the wall of Sam's continues to crumble, then I think Cas will have a hand in that in this first episode. The new season is going to start like wildfire and frankly, I would not have it any other way!
    Did anyone catch the commercial last night for Garnier hair products? The only reason why I bring this up is because did you catch who is in it? Mary Winchester! Her hair is cut shorter and she is just beautiful!

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  52. Manto Tzefriou20 August 2011 at 15:48

    Of course I'm happy that finally the network is giving Supernatural some love. It was about time I say. But that doesn't change the fact that, for me, it's sending the wrong message for the show. Dean is not even acknowledged by name much less as a character with an interesting storyline.. Whereas Sam and Castiel, with their promos, get some kind of a road so far review and an idea of what they will do next.

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  53. Wilson Crawford20 August 2011 at 15:53

    Interesting. I NEED MORE PLEASE.

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  54. isleofskye20 August 2011 at 16:05

     Yes, in Lazarus Rising , Castiel's appearance at the end was mind-blowing and and the whole arc at the time was riveting-------- Michael , Lucifer the whole idea of Heaven being brought into play was awesome but to keep on trying to give it a new lease of life now, when it really can't go anwhere else, gets to be a little bit sad.

    I know that there are a lot of Castiel fans out there but if the heaven arc gets eliminated then he automatically gets eliminated too, or put on hold.
    It's not a personal thing, it's just logic.

    Anyway, it's all hypothetical, as for all we know Castiel could be in every episode..............

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  55. hlnkid20 August 2011 at 16:38

    SWEET!!!  Looks like S7 is gonna start off amazing! 

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  56. Jannine kelly20 August 2011 at 17:17

    We knew he was god, so obviously we knew Castiel was gone. :(

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  57. chris68420 August 2011 at 17:25

    I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but I didn't see season 6 as the Apocalypse 2, with the Michael and Lucifer storyline being resurrected.  The threat of the Apocalypse was the trigger that changed Cas and led to him entering into the deal with Crowley, searching for Purgatory, and being indirectly responsible for the release of Eve, but the Apocalypse in season 6 never went beyond the threat stage.  Angels weren't even in the majority of the season 6 episodes, and in most of his appearances, Cas was just seemingly backing up the boys. I don't think there's been an attempt to give the Apocalypse story a new lease on life since Swan Song.

    I have no desire to see the Apocalyspe story revisited in season 7, but saying all angels should automatically disappear because that one storyline is over is the same as saying all demons should automatically disappear because the demon story ended in season 4 with the deaths of Ruby and Lilith.  Since the show is "Supernatural," neither scenario is logical to me.

    I might agree that Cas's fate should be tied to the rest of the angels if Cas was still the angel we met in season 4 - with one purpose, to enforce the will of Heaven.  But Cas is something different now, maybe an angel/human hybrid, temporarily God, but something unique with stronger ties to the Winchesters than to his fellow angels now.  I don't know where this is going, but Cas's storyline hasn't equaled the Heaven storyline for a while now.

    My final point is that it sounds like a great dream, that the Winchesters would be leading the charge, but the reality is that they've been pawns by much more powerful creatures since the pilot, when YED killed their mother and they started to unravel a bigger plot with the demon blood and the psychic children.  Their story has been two heroes trying to stay alive, save some people, and make sense of a big scary world that seems intent on ending bloody.  With the exception of Swan Song, they've never had much control over their own destiny. I wouldn't mind it if that changed, but it's not my story to tell, it's the writers'.

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  58. Dahne20 August 2011 at 18:06

    This is exactly what I think.  The angels were an awesome surprise in season 4 but they also painted the writers in a corner where they became either a cheap fix/get out of jail free card or pushed Dean and Sam off to the side.  There was no way that humans could defeat angels and Lucifer on their own.  The story became too big for the main characters' limitations.  I felt they had a chance to remedy this in season 6 but they actually ratcheted the angel and demon story up.  A big mistake for me as a viewer.  I'm hoping they rectify this in season 7 and let the story go back to being two brothers fighting things they actually have a chance of winning against without having to turn to all these higher forces.  I know I'm not going to get all I want but they have to let the Winchesters win at some time or it's going to get hard watching them lose episode after episode.

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  59. Bruce_F20 August 2011 at 18:07

    I don't think his vessel is falling apart.  I'm fairly certain all of that is other people's blood.

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  60. Manto Tzefriou20 August 2011 at 18:08

    After watching this promo many times, the only thing that has struck me is how petulant and immature the "Kiss your Cass goodbye" sounds... Meh

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  61. Dahne20 August 2011 at 18:08

    I could handle more scares too and a bigger focus on the Winchesters as heroes instead of scapegoats and pawns.

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  62. Bruce_F20 August 2011 at 18:10

    That's a concern for drawing new viewers.  Most likely, existing fans of the show will see it at places like Spoiler TV, like we do.

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  63. Dahne20 August 2011 at 18:10

    I like Misha Collins and I'm glad he has been on Supernatural, but his character needs to be phased out so we can get rid of the angels or he needs to become fully human.  Actually, I hope that the Supernatural exposure allows Misha Collins to get his own TV show.

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  64. Jaqueline20 August 2011 at 18:12

    thanks

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  65. CyanaT20 August 2011 at 18:22

    Yes this ^^^ so much!

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  66. Debbie Combs20 August 2011 at 19:05

    We had a Sam centric promo in July which showed Sam's guilt from what soulless Sam did; sorry if you feel that the only truly Sam centric episode in all of season 6 was the worst episode ever in the shows history. I liked it because I was excited that there was a true Supernatural promo on the CW. That normally doesn't happen that far away from the Season premiere.

    Now, in August, we have a mostly Castiel centric promo in August with new footage of Sam being hurt (or having flashbacks) and Dean fighting back and talking. In September I am hoping for an "Oh Death" kind of promo; little snippets of new footage with creepy music playing would be good for me.

    I'm just happy they are promoting the show (finally!). However, I am sure that if I was a Dean fan I would be disappointed that they didn't grab a montage of his BAMF moments from season 6 or even his domestic moments like they had in the beginning of the premiere from Season 6. However, I don't believe the domestic moments would make a good promo, so it will have to be the BAMF moments. Just trolling through Live Free and Twi Hard could make a fabulous kick butt promo, however it wouldn't have much to do with Season 7. As far as I know most of Dean's story lines wrapped in Season 6 except for his PTSD and substance abuse.

    Note: This is not said with sarcasm, when I re-read it I kind of hear it, but I really think this would be cool because I think it is something that the writers still need to deal with....

    It would be kind of nice if they plowed through footage from Season 3-6 and took clips of Dean preparing for Hell (demon!Dean from DaLDoM, reading the book on Hellhounds, the nightmares, Sam's face morphing), getting dragged to Hell, suspended in Hell, crawling out from Hell, his flashbacks from Hell, the drinking and denying, the Yellow Fever hallucinations, torturing Alistair, beating the crap out of Sam... Then something a little more obvious than offering pills to Sam to show that he still has issues...

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  67. isleofskye20 August 2011 at 19:30

     First of all I just want to say that I have yet to see season 6, as I am waiting for the DVD to come out so I can really only give an eye-witness opinion up to the end of season 5, the rest is all taken from the various spoilers and other posts that I have been reading on-line

    So season 6 is all hearsay, as I have purposely not watched You Tube or any other video clips, so as to enjoy the episodes when I do see them.

    As for the angel story line, Castiel is an angel/now turned God so he belongs to heaven and is therefore part of that Arc.
    We don't know if he will remain God or what he will become so we can't comment on that yet


    The demons, monsters and legends were there long before the angels showed up and the boys were able to deal capably with them, sometimes winning ,sometimes losing, but but they weren't completely defenceless as they are against the angels and Castiel.

    I wouldn't agree on him having stronger ties with the Winchesters, of course he has frequented them more than any other angel but I couldn't say that it was all quality time they spent together.

    Castiel has always been ambiguous, sometimes an ally sometimes an enemy.
     After all, he had his mission from Heaven , and it wasn't to help the Winchesters but to use them for Heaven's purpose.

    If I had to equate him to someone I would say he has some aspects of Ruby. She, too at the beginning wanted to win the boys' trust, and when she could help them without upsetting her long-term plan she would, so as to consolidate that trust, and Castiel has behaved that way too.
    When it came down to basics though, they were both quite willing to betray Sam and Dean.

    The fact that the boys can't defend themselves against Castiel and the other powerful heavenly beings is the very reason  for taking them out of the picture,
    regards

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  68. Manto Tzefriou20 August 2011 at 19:51

    Believe me, I would be truly happy if they revisited Dean's Hell PTSD because I think they botched it the first time around with all the "you're weak" comments and the no support whatsoever from anyone. But unfortunately I think that particular ship has sailed. I would also really like it if the writers did something with the fact that Dean is practically a functioning alcoholic but I don't trust them not to use it as an excuse to keep kicking him while he's still down and make him look worse. 

    My objections to Unforgiven have nothing to do with it being Sam-centric. The mythology behind it was sloppy and wrong, the pacing was terrible, Sam once again ignored Dean's very sound advice and got himself into trouble, in the last scene the CGI looked horrible not to mentioned that it was a complete and unnecessary retcon (they made a big deal of telling us in season 5 that Lucifer was ice cold, not hot) and the flashbacks (that went on for too long and stopped the action) were redundant. I expected something new to come out; I already knew that soulless Sam was a d*bag with no mercy. I could go on about it but I think you can understand where I'm coming from. So for me the Sam promo was bad because it was based on that particular episode, not because it was centred around Sam. 

    As I said in my other comments, I really like the fact that the CW is finally paying attention to our show; it was about time. But is it too much to ask to promote their other co-lead too? Personally, I don't think so....

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  69. chris68420 August 2011 at 20:12

    I think we're just going to disagree on this.  You haven't seen season 6 yet, so I can't debate Cas's role or motivations with you without spoiling things, but I disagree with your view of him.

    I also disagree that the boys can't defend themselves against angels.  Maybe at first, but not now.  Same was true with demons at first.  They have sigils to keep angels out, holy fire to trap them, swords to kill them, and the blood sigil to send them far away.  When the show first started, someone in one of the episodes made a
    comment that they'd seen occasional demon possessions, but nothing like
    now (not sure of the episode, but I think it was when demons crashed the
    plane). The demon threat and mythology has developed as much as it has because demons were on the other side of the Apocalypse battle. True, we were introduced to demons before angels, but the only reason we got so much of YED, Lilith, Ruby, and Meg were because they were trying to raise Lucifer.   The show and mythology has grown since the start of the series, but I wouldn't want it to go backward.  It would be really boring if all they were doing was exorcising bottom-level demons and salting ghosts.

    Anyway, I'm not advocating that season 7 center around Heaven or angel storylines. I think most of us could use a break from that. I just think that angels have become one of the many supernatural creatures that are part of the boys' world now, and they should occasionally make appearances as long as the boys live in the supernatural world.

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  70. Mia49420 August 2011 at 20:29

    apart from everything, I don't like it when somebody pronounces Cas with the double "s". There is only one "s" in Castiel! :P

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  71. jillyanne21 August 2011 at 00:52

    Well hell - who cares about Sam, Dean or Cas - where's my Impala?

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  72. Katie122721 August 2011 at 00:56

    In many languages, like French, you don't pronnouce the ''S'' unless there's more than one. So you need 2 to make the sound or you'll end up with ''Ca''

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  73. comicfangirl21 August 2011 at 01:19

    That had me worried too, no Impala in the promo.
    I guess we won't see her in the first episode, because Dean has to fix her after she got attacked.

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  74. bstrong21 August 2011 at 01:47

    wow...i cant wait for september 23rd!!

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  75. Dahne21 August 2011 at 02:01

    I don't think season 6 was the Apocalypse part 2 either. In fact, I would have balked at having to go through that again.  What I do think is that the writers were trying to find a way to keep Castiel from being obsolete and couldn't find a good way to do it.  They threw Cas in wily nily to honor Misha Collins' contract and then tagged on the soul thing at the end to give him some importance.  I think it would have been better for them to have ended the angel storyline in season 5 instead of going deeper into it.  Cas himself said that the angels were back on earth again only because of the seals and the Apocalypse.  When that story line was wrapped up, they could have easily used the chaos in heaven as a reason why the angels were to busy to be bothered by humans again.  Instead they brought more angels into the story.

    Yes the brothers have been pawns since Mary made the deal with YED.  Still, they were often thrown things that they could handle on their own.  inf act, the whole first season worked that way for them for the most part.    Their destiny is now over due to YED dying and Lucifer back in the cage.  They are completely destiny free right now and I hope they stay that way.  This makes it a perfect time for them to be up against some Big Bad that they could conceivably defeat instead of things always getting bigger and bigger until it's ludicrous.

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  76. Dahne21 August 2011 at 02:07

    Agreed.  That's why we need feedback on if it is showing in places other than Supernatural airtime.  We already know we are going to watch Supernatural.  I will consider it a new day at the CW if Supernatural is promoted during Ringer and Secret Circle.

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  77. Dahne21 August 2011 at 02:13

    I am still holding out for a Dean fixing his Baby scene.  

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  78. AllyAF21 August 2011 at 02:23

    And since in many articles written around Comic Con last month it was saying taht Misha received scripts for episode 1-2 and 4.

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  79. chris68421 August 2011 at 02:25

    You thought the whole Cas storyline was an afterthought, an add-on to honor his contract?  We obviously see the season very differently.  I agree that they could have gotten rid of the angels after season 5 and gone with a completely different story if they had wanted to. They could have gotten rid of the demons too in that case, since the Sam/demon blood storyline had ended as well. They could have brought Sam back from Hell without ever bringing Crowley back. But I think having angels and demons around makes it more interesting and gives them more potential for stories.

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  80. Debbie Combs21 August 2011 at 09:00

    I didn't say that I thought you objected to Unforgiven because it was Sam-centric I just stated that it was a shame that you thought the only Sam-centric episode in season 6 was the worst of the series. I don't even think it was anywhere close to the worst of the Season (it is in my top 5). Family Remains will hopefully always be my least favorite episode of the series (I hope they never go there again).

    I loved the pacing of Unforgiven and since Sam is a Winchester, of course Sam didn't listen to Dean. Winchesters don't back off to save themselves, they back off to save others. Sam not listening to Dean gave me that scene that I love when the wall crumbles just a little. I was so shocked... I literally fell off the couch.

    I don't get your comment about Lucifer being ice cold... If Lucifer wanted Sam to burn, I believe he could make Sam burn (or at least make him think he was burning) the same way he could freeze his soul to ice. Or make acid eat out his insides. Also, they didn't make a big deal of telling us that Lucifer was ice cold to show us what Sam would be going through in Hell, it was one casual comment by Lucifer to explain why the area was colder than the surroundings. How would that limit what Sam experienced in Hell? I believe it was Casey that said there is a real fire in the pit... or was it Ruby? My assumption is that fire is involved in some way for all souls doomed to Hell.

    Now, as far as the ship sailing on dealing with Dean's PTSD... I thought they would have dealt with Sam's Hell!Time in Season 6, but they put that off with no qualms. It took how long for them to explain Mary's "I'm sorry to Sam?" Never give up is my motto. When something needs to be handled, I never give up hope the show will deal with it. Now, I am hoping that by helping Sam deal with his Hell!Time, Dean will get a chance to talk about his and also deal. They can do it together. That is my hope.

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  81. isleofskye21 August 2011 at 09:54

    Dear Chris684
    I just wanted to add a tag to our little debate.

    I know where your're coming from and I wouldn't be happy either if I thought that they were going to get rid of  Sam and Dean and replace them with, for eg.,

    " Crowley and Bobby, the new Supernatural Hunter and Demon Duo..........follow their adventures every week in the new Hell-fire red Impala."

    Only joking, but I hope we're good.
    regards

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  82. Manto Tzefriou21 August 2011 at 09:55

    Oh, I didn't say Unforgiven was the worst episode of the series; that dubious honour goes hands down to Swan Song for me. But still it's at the bottom of the barrel for the reasons I mentioned above and more. "since Sam is a Winchester, of course Sam didn't listen to Dean"I will only address this point in you comment because it is essentially why I have come to dislike Sam so much. He never grows up. Oh, we're told that he's grown but we're shown the opposite. For me the Show outweighs the Tell in movie or TV show... And in the case of Sam there is a huge disconnect between show and tell.

    The above is only my opinion of course... :)

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  83. Manto Tzefriou21 August 2011 at 09:58

    I think Dean fixing the Impala is one thing we can all agree we want to see...
    Because of the Impala of course ;)

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  84. RScorp21 August 2011 at 10:14

    Agree that don't think Cas is gone--for one don't think they'd strongly imply Cas could be gone in the promo if they were REALLY getting rid of him.  It's a misdirection.

    BUT I also believe the show would suffer without Cas with the story and with a big chunk of fans.  So it would be incredibly wise to keep Cas.  You don't need a big angel focus to keep Cas--he's part of the family now, much bigger than the angel angle.  And to me the show has written him in well.

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  85. Debbie Combs21 August 2011 at 10:44

    So, all of the times that Sam tried to save Dean in season 3 and Dean shrugged him off is Dean not being a grown up? When Dean offers his life for Layla in Faith, it was him being immature?

    Sam wants to make up for the horrible things that he did when he was soul-less and that is a sign of not growing up. OK, that is your opinion... Just spread that opinion around evenly. If it is a sign of immaturity in Sam to ignore warnings to save himself, it is a sign of immaturity in Dean.

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  86. Manto Tzefriou21 August 2011 at 11:07

    I'm not sure I understand completely the content of your comment because I'm not a native english speaker and the way you word you argument makes it a little hard for me to understand it, but I'll answer to what I think you're saying.

    First, I didn't say anything about Sam being immature; maybe I phrased it wrong. Even if you are a grown up and mature, you don't know everything; it's your life process to learn from your mistakes and grow up a little more. For me, Sam never learned from his mistakes because he keeps doing them. If I remember correctly, in the preview of 7x03 Sam does the same thing, he did in Hunted and in Unforgiven, that is he sneaks out on Dean and every time that's happened bad things ensue. That is a time span of 5 years. The examples you gave for Dean are of the earlier seasons.

    In season 3, Dean didn't want Sam to *try* and save him because the CRD explicitly said that if he tried to weasel out of it Sam would drop dead. I think he understood that if *anyone* tried to help him, Sam would drop dead. As for Layla, Dean was already on borrowed time and he thought she deserved it more than him, since he should have been dead. 

    About Unforgiven, Dean gave Sam some very valid arguments about why it was a bad idea, first to follow an unknown lead and then when they figured that Sam had already been there why they had to pass the case along to some other hunter. 

    I have trouble understanding you last sentence, so if you like, could you maybe phrase it another way? Not the words per se but the syntax? Thanks

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  87. Diane Hower Capkovic21 August 2011 at 11:43

    So don't want to lose Cass.  I am hoping Cass just changes but I've heard differently.  Really, Cass is a keeper.  Wondering what the writers are thinking.  I like Crowley but would be willing to give him up since he is on other shows too.  Can watch him on Dr. Who.  He is so much nicer on that show anyway.  Thinking of starting a campaign.  KEEP CASS!  

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  88. Carmen Lowe21 August 2011 at 13:55

    Cool! Finally, some new footage!

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  89. chris68421 August 2011 at 14:53

    We're good.  Debate is fine as long as it stays friendly.  :)

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  90. Manto Tzefriou21 August 2011 at 17:27

    I don't understand why you changed your comment, which contained the points I was addressing. I was simply trying to have a mature discussion about this. And if you read my answering comment you'd see that I didn't say he was immature so I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. But the way you phrased your edited comment sound snappish and frankly immature to me, so I'll bow out of this discussion. No hard feelings 

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  91. Debbie Combs21 August 2011 at 18:42

    I didn't want to get in a long argument with someone that I could
    never agree with, so I deleted my comment shortly after I posted it.

    Definition of mature: grown-up
    Antonym: Immature

    Someone who doesn't grow up is at least acting immature. I was not putting words in your mouth.

    Dean's "very sound advice" was intended to keep Sam safe. Sam was more concerned with fixing the wrongs that he created while soul-less. He could have ignored his mistakes, but he wanted to atone.

    To me, that is a very grown up thing to do.

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  92. Esther Varga21 August 2011 at 20:16

    However, this is English we're talking about, and the angel's name is Castiel, not Cassiel or Casstiel... also, Cass is a girl's name, at least in my book xD

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  93. Katie122722 August 2011 at 01:11

    Maybe you didn't know, but people are allow to watch the show even if English isn't their first language 0.o If they speak french for exemple as a first language and write it with 2 's' to have the sound, all day long, all year long......you can't go and tell other people to stop talking if they write it the same way they speak. It's the exact same name, with the exact same pronnouciation, no need for no like it

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  94. Dahne22 August 2011 at 01:55

    I disagree because I think the story would be much better off without any angels and that includes Cas.  I'm fine if he loses all of his angel powers and is strictly human but the angels are too powerful to continue with.  

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  95. Kayleigh R. DeGolier22 August 2011 at 02:05

    You make a very good point there except for one thing. I'm with those who say there should only be one 's' in any official SPN documentation. Because even though there are many international fans the show originates here in North America, the US actually even though it's filmed in Vancouver, where English is the language. And there is only one 's' in Castiel. Now it's all well and fine for fans of French speaking countries to write it as Cass if they prefer, however in the official promos and such here in the US and english speaking countries the spelling should only have one 's.'

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  96. Kayleigh R. DeGolier22 August 2011 at 02:06

    Misha is confirmed to appear in the first 2 episodes but past that no one knows.

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  97. Dahne22 August 2011 at 02:07

    I understand why some fans are concerned about Dean's place in the story right now because we haven't heard a succinct story line for him.  However, I firmly believe they ran the Sam promo not so much to promote Supernatural but because Jared was in the running for a Teen Choice Award.  It's the CW version of ads that conveniently highlight the character that was nominated for an Emmy.  That doesn't mean the show is about that character but that the network wants to capitalize on some free publicity.  I'm not at all concerned about the lack of a Dean-centric ad.

    As for the story line, they haven't even written much less shot many episodes so the overall plot is still being created and tweaked.  It makes sense that they start with Sam's wall falling and Cas' godhood because that's where we ended last year.  Also, the PTB have been extremely secretive about the mytharc this season - more so than usual.  It is highly possible that Dean's story is tied into that plot and can't be talked about so they are focusing on what we already know.  Sam has to deal with a downed wall.  Nothing given away by saying that.  

    Regardless of any of this, we have heard over and over that it is going to be the brothers against the world.  That the brother bond is stronger than ever.  That tells me that it is going to be a brother storyline (not Dean or Sam but Dean AND Sam) again and I am very excited about that.  It will be exciting to see them both on the same page again.

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  98. Kayleigh R. DeGolier22 August 2011 at 02:14

    I was sitting on FB Friday night during the time that SPN airs. Just chilling and then I see a post come across just after 10pm EST that there was a new promo after the episode. So I jumped up, grabbed my tv remote and quickly fast forwarded through the episode which had been DVRed (I'm recording them again because our DVR was replaced just after the end of the season the first time. Though it's probably pointless to be recording them since I'll get the entire series recorded again just as I pick up my season 6 boxset). Then just as I'm getting towards the end of episode my sister walks in from her day with her boyfriend. So I'm like "Sis come here I heard a new promo aired tonight for the new season of SPN!" So we got the ep fast forwarded and then oohed and ahhed and gave little shrieks of both delight and disappointment. It certainly wasn't a lot but it's new footage and being given it over a month in advance, we agreed either they're finally showing the fandom some love or they're trying to kill us with anticipation.

    As for the Cas issue I'm with the side that believes even if Misha is not a regular this season and only confirmed for the first 2 episodes he's not going to die right away. He'll be around for sure. Cutting Misha as a regular also helps to cut the budget cause now 3 actors don't have to be paid for every single episode. Maybe some of the budget from Misha's every episode salary in season 6 can go to getting the rock and roll music back into the show.

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  99. Dahne22 August 2011 at 02:20

    "we agreed either they're finally showing the fandom some love or they're trying to kill us with anticipation. "

    BWAH!  I completely agree with that!  These little teasers are not good for the heart rate.  :-)  I agree with what you said about Misha too.  It's likely a budget thing and I'm all for whatever needs to be done to get some rock back in each episode.

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  100. Kayleigh R. DeGolier22 August 2011 at 02:22

    Thank goodness for some level headed thoughts on this season and the issue regarding storylines. I've been so sick of hearing people whine and complain about the "lack of a Dean storyline" and "misuse of Jensen Ackles talent" that I've almost completely stopped browsing any SPN websites except the stuff here on spoilertv. I swear I've been part of this fandom for only just over a year now and the constant bickering on that aspect gets grating. It's probably why I've been a bit caustic to Dean and his fans of late (not a good thing I know but after a while you get tired of trying to reason with unreasonable Dean girls and whiny fans in general). Sam may be my favorite character just for the reason that I relate to him the most, but I am not a Sam girl (something I started out calling myself as a new fan cause I thought it just referred to Sam being your favorite character, not bashing the other characters and story unless it has to do with Sam). I love both brothers and all their allies and even some of the really great villains. But most of all I just love the story and the depth of emotions that is presented so wonderfully to us by everyone involved with the show.

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  101. Kayleigh R. DeGolier22 August 2011 at 02:37

    My sister has been lamenting Dean's hair for a couple seasons now. She misses the fohawk (sp?). She likes to go on about, "...it's something you can run your hands through and grab, whereas now it's too short and not as spiky and nothing there to grab." Not my words. I told her switch to being a Sam fan he's got plenty of beautiful hair to grab. To which she gave me, "He has too much and his hair looks better than mine."

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  102. RScorp22 August 2011 at 17:13

    Yes we'll have to disagree--I don't want angels to dominate but still like the spice they add to the show.  A little of heaven/hell is a nice supernatural touch.  And Cas is beyond the angel story anyway--as a friend and like a brother.  The show is creative enough to keep Cas without having his powers interfer with the show.  There are various ways to do that including having some portion of his powers stripped.

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  103. Katie122722 August 2011 at 19:13

    You know what? I think we should totally banned Sebastian for speaking french words in official english convention about an official english serie 0.o And misha too!! Even SO MUCH worse, he spoke 1 french word at Chicago! An english city, in an english country, about an english serie......and I think Richard Speight spoke couple of words in another langage in another Con with a fan

    Those words are so much more shocking to hear than 1 single little letter in 1 single word just to have the exact same sound

    It's either banning every actors at the Con...or being open minded and stop thinking that English is the only language in the world

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